GastonRabbit
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#2: May 16th 2022 at 10:04:53 AM
Anyway, I'm also in favor of a cut since the wick check showed that it's a problematic stock phrase that overlaps with Didn't Think This Through.
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 16th 2022 at 12:05:17 PM
You can't always get what you want.
Professional Wick Checker
#3: May 16th 2022 at 10:33:06 AM
Cut and move examples that overlap with Didn't Think This Through there.
Tabs
Since: Jan, 2001
#4: May 16th 2022 at 10:35:50 AM
Cut, move good examples to Didn't Think This Through or other applicable tropes.
themayorofsimpleton
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
from Elsewhere
(Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
prettycoolguy
Since: Nov, 2010
WarJay77
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
from The Void
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Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#7: May 16th 2022 at 10:45:17 AM
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amathieu13
Since: Aug, 2013
NotGonnaDoALot4
Man in the Yellow Hat
from God knows.
Since: Feb, 2018
Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Man in the Yellow Hat
#9: May 16th 2022 at 11:13:04 AM
Yep, cut and move.
There's so much I wish I could take back.
the Retromancer
#10: May 16th 2022 at 12:41:45 PM
Worth redirecting? e: I guess the answer is no, I was under impression we don't cut if we can move contents elsewhere.
Edited by Amonimus on May 16th 2022 at 12:12:35 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Just stoic wisdom.
#11: May 16th 2022 at 12:52:24 PM
Don't see any harm in adding a redirect, tbh.
How sweet it is
#12: May 16th 2022 at 12:55:36 PM
The problem with making it a redirect is a) it's wordy, making it less useful, and b) again, it's a Stock Phrase.
We could add it to Other Stock Phrases, though.
Edited by Berrenta on May 16th 2022 at 2:57:57 PM
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#13: May 16th 2022 at 12:55:39 PM
Straightforward cut and move
GastonRabbit
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#14: May 16th 2022 at 1:04:50 PM
I mentioned cutting, Tabs mentioned cutting, and Berrenta mentioned cutting. That's three mods who said to cut instead of redirect, so I'd say redirecting to Didn't Think This Through isn't necessary (but we could still hash that out later).
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 16th 2022 at 3:05:23 AM
You can't always get what you want.
(she/her)
#15: May 16th 2022 at 2:09:33 PM
I don't think this is worth keeping as a redirect and it's existence might effect Didn't Think This Through negatively. I think we can just list Didn't Think This Through in the cut reason. People coming to the site via inbounds would still be able to find the trope they are looking for so I don't think we will lose anything.
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GastonRabbit
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#16: May 17th 2022 at 12:31:29 AM
How about listing the following cut reason to provide the link to Didn't Think This Through:
Per TRS
, this was decided to be redundant with Didn't Think This Through.
You can't always get what you want.
, this was decided to be redundant with Didn't Think This Through.
(she/her)
#17: May 17th 2022 at 2:28:06 AM
I think that works.
Macron's notes
GastonRabbit
MOD
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#18: May 17th 2022 at 3:31:24 AM
We're waiving the Three-Day Rule for this one, so cut away.
You can't always get what you want.
GastonRabbit
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#19: May 17th 2022 at 3:48:03 AM
The cuts have been made, so I'll close this.
Here's the wick check sandbox's contents for archival purposes:
A wick check for Should Have Thought Of That Before X
The issue (originally): This trope appears to be redundant with the trope Didn't Think This Through, to the point of being The Same but Lampshaded. This check, which goes through all viable wicks, will determine how much of it is redundant. Indices will be checked as well.
Overlaps DTTT (4/46)
Definition: An instance in which a planned act has a glaring problem realized too late.
- Characters.Batman The Animated Series Rogues Gallery Part 3: Didn't Think This Through: He didn't realize that it might not be a good idea to unveil one of his gigantic animals in a populated city. Even the judge who ordered him to cease his experiments because of the damage, told Brown he Should Have Thought Of That Before.
- Characters.My Wife Is A Demon Queen: He tells Moss Feili he should have planned how to cross The Lake of Sound, rather than expect him to swim.
- Film.The Out Of Towners: George can only kick himself for several bad judgement calls, that bite him in the ass hard: Subbulleted list omitted for space
- Recap.A Thing Of Vikings Chapter 42 The Pen: It wasn't until after they gave Ulaid and his men Sacred Hospitality on Berk that they find out they brought thralls with him.
No overlap (5/46)
- Dialogue: An index. While DTTT could be used as such, it's not primarily a dialogue trope.
- Stock Phrases: An index in which DTTT will not qualify
- This Trope Is X: An index in which DTTT will not qualify
- Fanfic.For The Mission: The Farmer and the Viper: Nate invokes this, discouraging trust in himself after revealing his deception to the guild. He even internally chastises Martha for trusting him with her back after all he did. No plan involved
- Recap.Disenchantment S 2 E 10 Tiabeanie Falls: Despite the fact that Derek has been the heir to the throne since he was born, Bean has always treated him rather badly. She comes to realize that this was a mistake when she is charged with witchcraft and regicide by Odval; and Derek, now acting as king with Zøg incapacitated, is the judge at her trial. No plan involved
Used as a stock phrase (28/46)
This is where it may or may not overlap, but it's just being used as a stock phrase.
- Villains Want Mercy (re: Yu-Gi-Oh!): During the Battle City arc, Insector Haga/Weevil Underwood convinces a kid, who he later double-crosses, to sabotage Jounouchi/Joey's deck before dueling him, giving Haga a pretty serious advantage. When Jounouchi proceeds to win anyway, and demands Haga's two Locator Cards and Insect Queen, Haga begs for mercy, to which Jounouchi remarks that he should've thought of that before he cheated.
- Characters.Rosario Plus Vampire Newspaper Club: In Capu2 episode 7, Kurumu, Mizore, and Yukari get involved in a massive fight over Tsukune, causing damage to the surrounding neighborhood and risking a Broken Masquerade, and eventually forcing Tsukune to unleash Inner Moka to forcibly break them up. The next morning, Ruby arrives in the bus to drag them back to school; when Kurumu furiously objects, not wanting to go back to school just yet, Ruby just throws her into the bus, snapping, "Well, you should've thought of that before causing such a big ruckus in the human world!"
- Characters.Spider Man Trilogy: Villains Want Mercy: Implores Peter, who he's just swindled out of a job, not to expose his fake Spider-Man photos.
Eddie: I'm begging you. If you do this, I will lose everything. There's not a paper in town that will hire me.
Peter: You should've thought of that earlier. - Fanfic.Diamond And Silvers Excellent Adventure:
[Twilight said,] "No, girls. If you're only here to learn about time travel, you might as well go home, because I won't teach you."
Diamond Tiara smirked. "Well, Princess Twilight, you should have thought of that before we activated our time machine." - Fanfic.Growing Up Black: Sirius' response when Regulus told him Voldemort wanted him to do something he considered "too horrible even to imagine".
Sirius: Of course it is. You work for bloody Voldemort. You ought to have considered that before you decided to join the effing Death Eaters".
- Fanfic.Harry Potter And The Prince Of Slytherin: When Fred and George protest about having to make peace as a condition to be allowed to attend the Quidditch World Cup, Percy says they should've thought about that before ruining the party their mother "had slaved to prepare for" them.
- Fanfic.The Many Dates Of Danny Fenton: When Max confronts Sam for putting her granddaughter in danger:
Max: From this moment on, you're under our watch. Anything you say or do is going to be monitored to make sure you don't open your mouth about Gwen, or Ben...
Sam: THIS IS AN INVASION OF PRIVACY!
Max: You should have thought of that before you did that to my granddaughter. - Film.Spider Man 3:
Eddie: Look, I'm begging you: if you do this, I will lose everything. There won't be a paper in town that'll hire me.
Peter: (corrupted by the symbiote) You should've thought of that earlier. - Film.The Dark Knight:
Maroni: This madness... it's just too much.
Gordon: You should have thought of that before you let that clown out of the box. - Film.Tower Heist: Mr. Simon fires Josh, Charlie, and Enrique after Josh smashes the windows of Shaw's car. When Charlie brings up his pregnant wife, Mr. Simon says he should have thought about that before entering Shaw's penthouse.
- Film.Universal Soldier The Return: Erin regarding the titular Super Soldiers annihilating the Red Shirt Army.
Erin: "Maybe you should have thought it up before you built the fucking things!"''
- Heroes.Tropes R To U: In Chapter Eighteen, "Parasite".
Isaac Mendez: How am I supposed to pretend this didn't happen?Candice Wilmer: Maybe you should have thought about that before you shot her. Twice.
- LawAndOrderSVU.Tropes Q To Z: In one disturbing example, a man is framed for raping a teenage girl, and is subsequently abused in prison. He pleads with the officers for protection but they just tell him, "You should have thought about the pecking order before you raped that girl." He ends up getting killed.
- Recap.Babylon Five S 04 E 14 Moments Of Transition: Shakiri's last-ditch effort to save his dignity is rebuffed with this.
Shakiri: Delenn... we can walk out together. Share the power. No one will speak against us.
Delenn: NO!
Shakiri: There are other ways!
Delenn: Then you should have explored them before you tore our people apart! - Recap.Rosario Plus Vampire S 2 E 7 Bathroom And A Vampire: Kurumu, Mizore, and Yukari get involved in a massive fight over Tsukune, causing damage to the surrounding neighborhood and risking a Broken Masquerade, and eventually forcing Tsukune to unleash Inner Moka to forcibly break them up. The next morning, Ruby arrives in the bus to drag them back to school; when Kurumu furiously objects, not wanting to go back to school just yet, Ruby just throws her into the bus, snapping, "Well, you should've thought of that before causing such a big ruckus in the human world!"
- Recap.The New Batman Adventures E 14 Critters: When Farmer Brown pleads that shutting down his experiments will ruin him, the judge says "You should have thought of that when you started creating these monsters."
- Recap.The Simpsons S 11 E 17 Bart To The Future: Homer eventually responds to Bart's attempt to make him give money by saying he should have thought about that before dropping out of the DeVry Institute.
- Recap.The Simpsons S 27 E 22 Orange Is The New Yellow: When Marge asks who's going to watch the kids while she's under arrest, Chief Wiggum says she should have thought about that before he and other cops showed up without warning.
- Recap.The Simpsons S 8 E 21 The Old Man And The Lisa: When Mr. Burns learns about recycling from Lisa:
Mr. Burns: Oh, so Mother Nature needs a favor. Well, maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts and floods and poison monkeys.
- Series.Dollhouse: In episode "Omega":
Caroline: Hey! That *is* my brain! I want my brain back! I want back in my brain!Alpha: You should have thought of that before you vacated the premises.
- Series.House: In episode "Hunting".
Kalvin: This is none of your business!
House: Well, you should have thought of that before you stalked me. Now I'm interested. - Series.Ugly Betty: In episode "A Tree Grows in Guadalajara"
Alexis: [Hates the fact that Daniel is seeing her ex-girlfriend]
Daniel: You're just jealous because I've got the one thing you can't have. Guess you should have thought of that before you gave away the family jewels, huh? - SouthPark.Tropes R To V: In "Cartman's Mom Is Still a Dirty Slut":
Liane: I mean, what right do I have bringing another child into this overpopulated world? Then again, I should have thought of that before having sex...
- TheSimpsons.Tropes S To Z:
- Taken to illogical extremes in detention.
Principal Skinner: Over here, Simpson! The detention room is dangerously overcrowded so you'll be spending your time in the cafeteria.
Student: Oxygen running out...
Principal Skinner: Yes, you should have thought of that before you made that paper airplane. - In "Lost Our Lisa", Lisa can't go to the Isis Exhibit because Marge has to take Bart to the hospital to get the novelty items he glued to his face removed, leading to this exchange:
Lisa: Oh! It's the last day of the Isis exhibit!
Bart: Well, you should have thought of that BEFORE I glued all this stuff to my face! - In "Mobile Homer", the movie Marge watches features dialog of this.
Man: I'm afraid your husband had no life insurance.
Woman: But what will I do?!
Man: You should've thought of that before you married a dead man!
- Taken to illogical extremes in detention.
- Theatre.The Pirates Of Penzance:
Sergeant of Police: It is most distressing to us to be the agents whereby our erring fellow-creatures are deprived of that liberty which is so dear to us all— but we should have thought of that before we joined the force.
- VideoGame.Batman Arkham Origins: One of the escaped Blackgate prisoners begs Batman not to take him back because it's so horrible. Batman tells him that he should have thought of that before he became a mob hitman.
- VideoGame.Five Nights At Fuckboys: In the Debacuhery Simulator
Frooby: Golden Freddy would you care to join us in a game of monopolyBobby: We fucking played monopoly yesterdayFrooby: Well you should have thought about that before dying mister
- WesternAnimation.American Pop
Palumbo: Don't you think it's time for a wedding?Zalmie: How can I ask her? I don't have a cent.Palumbo: You should have thought of that before you got her pregnant.
Other issues (6/46)
- ComicBook.Spider Man: Fury to Mysterio after deciding to keep him in the Ultimate verse. ZCE
- Characters.Talk To Strangers: This trope may come up a few times, especially at the Broken House. ZCE
- Characters.The Faraway Paladin: Pals with Jesus: Will is in very good terms with his goddess Gracefeel. She once reacts to his sudden prayer for guidance after it sinks in he's basically the Lord of Beast Woods with a few giggles at his expense. Misuse
- Film.Colors: High Top's name is dropped by a snitch busted in a major cocaine-smuggling investigation, and Hodges gets roasted by McGavin for not arresting High Top earlier when they had the chance. Not enough context
- Pantheon.Comedy Genres: Misuse
Cartman: Damn, that girl was prepared for this. Wish I had thought of the blackmail idea.
- Wrestling.Honky Tonk Man: Too Dumb to Live: The aforementioned Summerslam '88 incident. "GIMME SOMEBODY OUT HERE TO WRESTLE; I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS!" Yeah, uh..... that was a very bad idea, Honky! Used with word cruft
Won't be counted (3/46)
This folder is for wicks that won't be considered.
You can't always get what you want.
- Didn't Think This Through: Compare
- QuoteSource.The Simpsons: Quote source index
- Tropes Needing TRS: Administrivia page
Total posts: 19
Note: This thread was originally proposed by ~Berrenta, who gave others permission to make the thread.
This trope has been around for over a decade, and only has a small amount of wicks. Originally, I suspected that it's a lot similar to Didn't Think This Through, but after a wick check, there turns out to be an even bigger issue at hand: that it's one of the reasons why we have No New Stock Phrases.
According to the tally of all 46 wicks, 28 of them (60.9%) are cases in which it's used as a stock phrase. For those that aren't:
I don't see how we can make it a viable trope, so I propose we move any applicable examples to Didn't Think This Through and cut.
You can't always get what you want.