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So, Kill Em All is supposed to be an ending trope where every character or almost every character is dead by the end, but is often misused as a Stock Phrase or a character attempting to kill a large number of people. This trope should thus be renamed "Kill Em All Ending" or "Everybody Dies Ending" to make it clear that it is an ending trope.

Now, the wick check found that, when considering just the Correct Use and Misuse categories, they were surprisingly more-or-less even, with the misuse being greater with 5 wicks. Though when the rest is considered, then the correct examples become a minority. So there is still a clear problem here. Another thing I noticed was a pattern- wicks within work namespaces like Literature and Live-Action TV tended to use the trope correctly, while wicks in other namespaces and potholes misused it.

Wicks checked: 85/85

Wick check: Wick Em All

Edited by Tabs on Sep 19th 2022 at 11:24:08 AM

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#1: May 6th 2022 at 10:41:36 AM

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    Original post 
So, Kill Em All is supposed to be an ending trope where every character or almost every character is dead by the end, but is often misused as a Stock Phrase or a character attempting to kill a large number of people. This trope should thus be renamed "Kill Em All Ending" or "Everybody Dies Ending" to make it clear that it is an ending trope.

Now, the wick check found that, when considering just the Correct Use and Misuse categories, they were surprisingly more-or-less even, with the misuse being greater with 5 wicks. Though when the rest is considered, then the correct examples become a minority. So there is still a clear problem here. Another thing I noticed was a pattern- wicks within work namespaces like Literature and Live-Action TV tended to use the trope correctly, while wicks in other namespaces and potholes misused it.

Wicks checked: 85/85

Wick check: Wick Em All

Edited by Tabs on Sep 19th 2022 at 11:24:08 AM

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#3: May 6th 2022 at 10:48:22 AM

I think 'Kill 'Em All' Ending or "Everybody Dies" Ending would be good. Everyone Dies is currently a disambig, but that may have its own misuse with the other two tropes listed if we bring it back. A good chunk of the misuse could be moved to Gotta Kill Them All. Is there any other tropes that overlap with the misuse?

Edit: Honestly, with how similar the names are and how it overlaps with the most common misuse, I wouldn't be opposed to making Kill Em All into a redirect to Gotta Kill Them All either. It seems to cover the, well, killing them all, concept well and we can move legitimate examples into the new trope name.

Edited by prettycoolguy on May 6th 2022 at 1:51:50 PM

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#4: May 6th 2022 at 10:50:43 AM

Omnicidal Maniac is definitely one.

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#5: May 6th 2022 at 10:54:46 AM

As well as Kill All Humans. Maybe ignore the redirect idea for now, the misuse is actually pretty diverse enough that there are enough entries to pull from for a solid disambig.

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#7: May 6th 2022 at 11:05:49 AM

I think a rename and then disambiging Kill Em All would work.

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#9: May 6th 2022 at 11:30:21 AM

[tup]Renaming.

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#11: May 6th 2022 at 12:22:42 PM

Rename. Not feeling any variations of "kill all" names without indication that this applies to the primary characters and not just Apocalypse How.

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#16: May 6th 2022 at 10:08:30 PM

I'm not feeling the "'kill em all' ending" name suggestion, how about something more like "main cast death ending" but less clunky?

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#17: May 9th 2022 at 4:14:23 AM

I prefer "Everyone Dies" Ending for being more concise.

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#18: May 9th 2022 at 6:22:40 AM

[up] I prefer "Everyone Dies" Ending or Kill Em All Ending. I don't think there's any way to make Main Cast Death Ending less clunky, to be honest

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#19: May 9th 2022 at 11:50:47 AM

I think it's safe to call this one in favor of renaming. Give me a bit and I'll compile a crowner with the options given so far.

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#20: May 9th 2022 at 11:53:10 AM

Double posting because the crowner is now live, though I admit that I overlooked the fact that there weren't as many suggestions as I thought, so feel free to add more.

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#21: May 9th 2022 at 1:02:06 PM

Posting this comment to make public that I voted in favor of "Everybody Dies Ending". I didn't upvote or downvote any of the other options.

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#22: May 11th 2022 at 10:54:44 PM

Calling in favor of "Everybody Dies" Ending. "Everyone Dies" Ending will be a redirect.

I'll go ahead and move the page, but I'm not going to do any cleanup at the moment aside from moving over the indexing.

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#24: May 12th 2022 at 9:00:39 PM

Updated the Renamed Tropes section of Trope Epitaph to reflect the rename of Kill 'Em All to "Everybody Dies" Ending.

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#25: May 12th 2022 at 9:57:48 PM

[up][up]I overlooked that redirect earlier, which is why it was a double redirect. I fixed it to point to the new name instead of the old name.

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Consensus was to rename Kill Em All due to misuse. What should its new name be?

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