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Proglottid Since: Mar, 2010
#4101: Aug 13th 2025 at 5:48:32 AM

Soooooo the God Valley Incident was the Pirate Trojan War the entire time, huh?

Potman Since: Jan, 2001
#4102: Aug 13th 2025 at 9:43:56 AM

Shaping up to be a hilarious twist if true.

Also, nice to see Shiki's fruit in canon. Once, a deadly force dominating one of the best One Piece movies. Now, a very funny one-panel gag. Never change, Oda.

Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#4103: Aug 13th 2025 at 5:45:39 PM

Harald's dream, it is appearing, was never going to work out unfortunately, not because his intentions weren't there, but rather... this is The World Government we are talking about here. Moving the Goalposts absolutely would have been done by them.

Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
Chaosjunction Since: Feb, 2010
#4104: Aug 13th 2025 at 7:27:18 PM

[up]

I'm willing to bet Loki is gonna overhear something about this which will only end up straining their relationship, for added pathos.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#4105: Aug 13th 2025 at 9:53:35 PM

Linlin seeing the other pirates making fools of themselves over Shakky turns out to be why she never bothered with true romance. She thinks love is a sucker’s game.

Disgusted, but not surprised
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#4106: Aug 13th 2025 at 11:23:03 PM

Whitebeard not being gay/ace came as a bit of a surprise. tongue

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#4107: Aug 13th 2025 at 11:26:20 PM

Shakky really was the Boa Hancock of her time. And like Boa she falls for the one person who isn’t totally smitten with her on sight. Though unlike Luffy, Rayleigh isn’t totally unaffected by her charm.

Disgusted, but not surprised
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#4108: Aug 15th 2025 at 12:44:53 PM

If the theory that Shakky was the stolen "Crown Jewel of Hachinosu" ends up being true, it would certainly put some of the lines said by the Rocks Pirates after touching down on God Valley in a new light.

I'm looking forward to seeing what else gets revealed in this flashback.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Aug 15th 2025 at 12:46:50 PM

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#4109: Aug 28th 2025 at 9:02:10 PM

Haven't seen all the spoilers, but this week's ends with infant Shanks and Shamrock.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#4110: Aug 29th 2025 at 12:08:33 AM

Man I feel kinda bad for Rocks, poor guy. It's a shame seeing people fall for the WG's bullshit time and time again.

Potman Since: Jan, 2001
#4111: Aug 29th 2025 at 1:30:30 AM

[up][up]Shamrock looked like a cute little goober, too. Used to Be a Sweet Kid incarnate.

...And if we're going to go down that rabbit-hole then this flashback is now whole five layers deep.

ZheToralf Floating Advice Reminder from somewhere in Germany Since: Dec, 2009
#4112: Aug 29th 2025 at 4:03:34 AM

I kinda dig it. At this point im in it for the memes.

All jokes aside though, It's clear that this flashback is not just to explain what happened when Harald died, but also the context of the history around it.

You lost!
Potman Since: Jan, 2001
#4113: Aug 29th 2025 at 4:52:44 AM

I'm just looking forward to Lola. I wonder if we'll even find the time for her. Things are starting to stretch as it is.

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#4114: Aug 29th 2025 at 10:26:35 AM

As much as I mourn the idea of a underdog ish, chubby Loki, I applaud Oda that Lola rejected him despite Loki looking so traditionally hot. YOU GO GIRL! YOU DO YOUR THING!

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#4115: Aug 29th 2025 at 6:16:36 PM

...Loki probably didn't need Lola either.

I say this as a fan of Lola's character... but it was probably for the best for both characters that neither of them ended up with each other.

Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#4116: Aug 29th 2025 at 6:22:42 PM

[up] Of course I do! I agree! They will be way happier with whomever they end up with. I more or less meant that I loved the subversion of the whole Lola rejecting the "Hot Guy" in most other stories she would be seen as "ungrateful" and "needing to put out" One Piece says fuck that and she ends up married for love. I hope Loki does too, even if he too falls in love with "Adventure" like most of the Straw Hats.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#4117: Aug 29th 2025 at 7:02:41 PM

IIRC nobody considered Loki to be "hot" in universe.

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#4118: Aug 29th 2025 at 7:20:46 PM

This is mostly out of universe, and me being glad for whatever piece of escapism I can get. Besides, no man in One Piece is said literally in universe to be hot or desirable. The closest are Cavendish with his fangirls and maybe Sanji, because besides his simping he's hot and does have some people loving him.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#4119: Aug 29th 2025 at 7:51:48 PM

So the situation that you say is subverted couldn't have happened in universe in the first place.

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#4120: Aug 29th 2025 at 8:00:36 PM

One Piece doesnt really engage in lookism, so you are right, it wouldnt really have happened. But the sheer amount of IRL saying that fat people should just settle for less and it goes double if the person is actually hot or traditionally desirable. Lola was literally introduced by Oda desperately looking for her true love, and most men running from her, after having rejected Loki. This is canon and did happen. And then Toei with one of their fillers assumed the reason she rejected Loki was because he was a loser beneath her.

And then Oda comes "Nah, Lola just said "See you later boy" and moved on with her life". And Canon Loki looks like a really traditionally good looking for IRL standards guy. This is just so good for me.

What One Piece is subverting is the IRL biases on beauty that are common IRL.

Edited by AegisP on Aug 29th 2025 at 8:01:28 AM

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#4121: Aug 29th 2025 at 8:21:16 PM

Seems more like the joke is Lola, who was introduced proposing to Luffy who she just met and has thousands of rejected proposals to random men, and the punchline is that she rejected Loki who proposed to her, rather than any purposeful attempt at subverting lookism.

AFan Since: Nov, 2022
#4122: Aug 29th 2025 at 8:35:49 PM

[nja]

Edited by AFan on Aug 29th 2025 at 11:59:51 AM

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#4123: Aug 29th 2025 at 8:36:38 PM

That's piracy and you cant share that here.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
Freshwater Since: Apr, 2023
#4124: Aug 29th 2025 at 9:09:27 PM

So to me, Harold right now comes across as kind of ignorant of the Marine/WG.

He notes that people have a bad impression of giants because they have periodically waged war against other islands for their own benefit. So, he wants to restructure giants society into a more progressive one that favors peace. That part I understand.

I also get that he wants to have Elpaf inducted into the world government in order to signify and expediate that political and cultural transition.

But, it seems like Harold doesn't really understand that the world government/marines don't really care about giants as people. They still use them as slave labor or as shown in the Big Mom flashback engage in giant-child trafficking. He also has no guarantee that being part of the WG will actually mend fences with other races. Afterall, the Fishmen despite engaging in very limited hostilities with humans still get discriminated and disenfranchised by the WG/Marines. It seems weird that Harold would believe that the WG wouldn't just use him then discard him especially since the first thing they asked him to do is be an attack dog.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#4125: Aug 29th 2025 at 10:29:45 PM

In-universe, the WG still has a good reputation overall especially at that point in time. We as the readers know that's all horseshit.

I get the feeling that this is the tipping point that makes Harald see the WG's true face, and it's why Elbaf's giants aren't already the WG's attack dogs.

Edited by M84 on Aug 30th 2025 at 1:30:54 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised

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