To-do list:
- Bastard Boyfriend, Bastard Girlfriend, and Bespectacled Bastard Boyfriend have been merged into Fetishized Abuser.
- Move wicks for abusers who are treated as attractive by the narrative to Fetishized Abuser to the new name and remove ones that don't.
- Remove on-page examples that aren't for abusers who are treated as attractive by the narrative.
It is supposed to be an abuser who is treated as attractive by the narrative but must people treat it as Domestic Abuser or other bad boyfriend.
Bastard Boyfriend Wick Check lists 40% of examples as Domestic Abuser, 24% as correct, 30% as zero context, and 6% other "bad boyfriends".
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 16th 2022 at 6:42:32 AM
Calling in favor of the following:
- Merging Bastard Boyfriend, Bastard Girlfriend, and Bespectacled Bastard Boyfriend into one trope
- Giving the new trope a new name (will be decided with another crowner; I'll get to that in a bit since we already have enough suggestions)
- Making the new trope No Real Life Examples, Please!
- Making the new trope In-Universe Examples Only
- Making Kichiku an Anime Fanspeak page
- Making Kichiku Megane an Anime Fanspeak page
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 26th 2022 at 3:07:06 AM
You can't always get what you want.All right, a rename crowner is hooked. I'll post about it on ATT.
Feel free to turn Kichiku and Kichiku Megane into Anime Fanspeak Definition-Only Pages in the meantime (possibly using sandboxes).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 16th 2022 at 4:41:45 AM
You can't always get what you want.Charming Abuser could be taken to mean Bitch in Sheep's Clothing or something similar, even if the abuser is still portrayed in a bad light. Only Romanticized Abuser makes it clear that the idea is that the abuser is portrayed as a sex god(dess) or something similar.
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.I think we can just move most if not all of the text from Bastard Boyfriend and Bespectacled Bastard Boyfriend to Kichiku and Kichiku Megane respectively. We'll just have to make a completely new description for the new trope.
Macron's notesI voted for Romanticized Abuser at first but that is literally one letter different from Romanticized Abuse, which is the supertrope given that "level four" is simply described as Bastard Boyfriend. So I'm gonna have to change my vote.
EDIT x2: I'm not personally loving any of these other names, though. Abusive Lover? I can't think of anything better myself.
Edited by WaterBlap on Feb 16th 2022 at 1:00:27 PM
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyAbusive Lover just sort of sounds like Domestic Abuse in general; these titles need to capture that the abuse is portrayed as romantic to the audience.
Current Project: The TeamMaybe Fetishized Abuser, then. Again, the only issue I have with Romanticized Abuser is that we already have Romanticized Abuse and the name is too similar imo.
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyI still don't see why we can just have Romanticized Abuse cover individual cases. It already individual cases when the abuser is neither male nor female.
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 16th 2022 at 2:21:13 PM
Macron's notesI was thinking Sexualized Abuser; Fetishized Abuser isn't bad either. Both are clear that it's an in-universe point of view.
Sexualized Abuser came to my mind too; I was wary about it mostly because of the similarity to "sexual abuser".
Current Project: The TeamI think at this point it's more about the number of examples justifying a split except the subtropes are already split.
I could vote for any of those new suggestions. Sexualized Abuser works really well, I think.
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyNew suggestions are added. Vote vote vote.
So I created a sandbox to sort the examples. I will need help merging the descriptions, unless you would prefer making a new one from scratch.
Also, Abusively Sexy is a redirect, I think, so that could be another good name.
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.Sounds more like a trope about someone using their sex appeal for abuse.
Current Project: The TeamI added it to the crowner.
Calling in favor of Fetishized Abuser since it has the highest ratio in favor of it. Sexualized Abuser and Romanticized Abuser will be redirects because they also had at least a 2:1 ratio.
We'll need a sandbox for drafting a description for Fetishized Abuser, and the same might as well be done for the Fan Speak pages Megane and Kichiku Megane.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 19th 2022 at 1:04:36 PM
You can't always get what you want.I think we can use Bastard Girlfriend as a base for the description for Fetishized Abuser.
Since Bastard Boyfriend and Bespectacled Bastard Boyfriend are specifically about Kichiku and Kichiku Megane, we can just do a straight move to the Fanspeak pages and maaybe redirect them to those pages.
Macron's notesSounds good.
Also, unrelated to the above post, I forgot to mention that Fetishised Abuser will be made a redirect in addition to what I previously mentioned, due to the American and Commonwealth Spellings policy.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 19th 2022 at 1:35:10 PM
You can't always get what you want.Should we make a TLP for Fetishized Abuser, because the on page examples have as much misuse as the wicks?
Edited by randomtroper89 on Feb 26th 2022 at 2:31:47 PM
"We'll need a sandbox for drafting a description for Fetishized Abuser"
Edited by Amonimus on Feb 26th 2022 at 11:35:49 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Crown Description:
Consensus was to merge Bastard Boyfriend, Bastard Girlfriend, and Bespectacled Bastard Boyfriend into one trope and give the new trope a new name. What should the new name be?
Abuser Charm? Sexy Abusive Lover? Sexy Abuser?
Edited by Tabs on Feb 15th 2022 at 4:55:26 AM