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Hello83433 (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#51: Feb 6th 2022 at 1:42:06 PM

The reason I'm leaning more on the disambiguate side is that I can see the super-trope attracting more misuse or people just using it as a freebie in addition to the correct subtrope in the future.

For now, we can sandbox the examples that don't have a clear subtrope and have full context.

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#52: Feb 6th 2022 at 1:42:54 PM

Exactly. Since making a new trope is a free action, there's no reason we can't do both once we collect enough examples.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#53: Feb 6th 2022 at 1:54:46 PM

I'm not necessarily against doing that if it's what the thread ultimately decides on, I'd just like to see my idea on the crowner so it can be weighed against the other options. Would that be okay?

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#54: Feb 6th 2022 at 1:58:57 PM

I think that’s fine.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 6th 2022 at 4:59:04 AM

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#55: Feb 6th 2022 at 2:17:07 PM

I bumped the crowner bulletin since a new option was added.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#56: Feb 9th 2022 at 12:32:10 AM

Quick question: do we generally run crowners that have had options added for longer?

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#57: Feb 9th 2022 at 3:02:22 AM

Maybe if they were added at least one day after the original options, but all of the options we have now were added on the same day, so I think I'll end up calling this one later today.

Plus, I already bumped the ATT bulletin after the newest option was added, so I don't see it getting any new votes. It's been at eight votes total since I last checked it yesterday.

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#58: Feb 9th 2022 at 6:01:12 AM

Calling in favor of disambiguating. I'll move the page's contents to a sandbox and put the disambiguation page up.

Edit: The old contents are now on Sandbox.Stun Guns. The main page is now a disambiguation page.

Here are the wicks for the main page, and here are the wicks for the singular Stun Gun redirect.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 9th 2022 at 8:11:29 AM

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#59: Feb 9th 2022 at 8:20:39 AM

[up] Eh, I can roll with this. Should I go to TLP to collect more examples that don't fall under other tropes?

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#60: Feb 9th 2022 at 8:28:09 AM

Sure. Link to any drafts you make so people can suggest examples during cleanup.

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#62: Feb 12th 2022 at 9:59:55 AM

The Stun Guns redirect is down to 408 wicks.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#63: Feb 12th 2022 at 2:41:03 PM

Well, 402 now, with these pages having both Stun Gun and Stun Guns wicks:

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Hello83433 (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#64: Feb 13th 2022 at 2:00:33 AM

So I found this lovely essay of an example on the Hitman 2 page. I've left it alone for now (aside from moving to correct subtrope) but wondering if I can just ax everything after the second sentence.

  • Stun Gun: The Kalmer 1 tranquillizer dart gun. It has two darts, and acts like a long range sedative poison gun. At the games' launch, it was something of an Infinity -1 Sword for players who unlocked it, as sedative poison wasn't that useful in most circumstances. Why put a NPC or target to sleep, when you can get the same effect by knocking the target out cold by caving their head in with a can of pop / ball / baseball bat?; which has the added benefit of your throw auto-locking onto their head when you throw items from afar. This is on top of other downsides, such as the Kalmer 1's sedative darts having an arc, they suffer from distance falloff, and, this bears repeating, it only has two darts, meaning you cannot reload the Kalmer 1 unless the level you use it on has the gun somewhere laying aroundnote . Because of this, like in 2016, sedatives fell out of use by players pretty much immediately. Update 2.21 fixed a shortcoming with sedative poison (which includes the Kalmer 1) to now not count towards the "Body Found" section on the score screen, which now makes it a viable option to take down pesky NPC's and targets if they somehow later get found by another person, making it a straight upgrade from knocking someone else out. You still have to contend with the Kalmer 1's other downsides, but it's an improvement nonetheless.

Edited by Hello83433 on Feb 13th 2022 at 5:07:11 AM

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#65: Feb 13th 2022 at 3:52:20 AM

Hello 83433, please always refer to the Stun Guns page when removing entries. Missed for Minority Report.

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#66: Feb 19th 2022 at 5:22:44 PM

I cleaned out the last small fraction of Stun Gun wicks. 325 wicks for Stun Guns left.

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#67: Feb 19th 2022 at 5:58:47 PM

Has anyone done any work on the on-page examples, which were moved to Sandbox.Stun Guns? Just asking because I saw that the sandbox hasn't been cut.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#68: Feb 20th 2022 at 4:45:32 AM

Well, checking if they're on other trope pages like Static Stun Gun and only keeping the remains would help?

I see a few Taser-s.

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#69: Feb 24th 2022 at 5:04:01 PM

I'm working on the on-page examples on Sandbox.Stun Guns. The Anime and Manga folder and the Comic Books folder have already been taken care of. I also removed examples that didn't have sufficient context to tell where they should be moved, if there's anywhere to move them to.

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#70: Feb 24th 2022 at 5:31:22 PM

Double posting because a lot of examples that belong under Tranquilizer Dart are already listed there, so I removed them from the sandbox to make it easier to sort through the other unsorted examples. (A handful of dart-related examples haven't already been moved, but most of them had been, so there are still a few examples that still need to be moved to Tranquilizer Dart.)

Edit: Removed examples that were already listed on Static Stun Gun as well after checking that trope's page history.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 24th 2022 at 7:36:25 AM

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Trope Repair Shop: Stun Guns
6th Feb '22 8:26:46 AM

Crown Description:

Stun Guns is frequently misused, and appears to be redundant with other tropes. What should be done with it?

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