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Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#252: Mar 29th 2022 at 8:04:09 AM

[up][up]That review is pretty weird, the actual article seems to be on the positive side. Overall saying it is good, just not great. The headline seems to exist just to make it more clickbaity.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#253: Mar 29th 2022 at 8:04:44 AM

To be fair that's kind of what I expected. Phase 4 MCU lore has been somewhat aimless for the most part, so the question becomes whether the experience itself justifies the gimmick.

And it sounds like this show will go through the typical problem of too much money and high-quality ingredients put in to fail outright, but nevertheless having a lot of its unique identity ground down by the Disney polish machine for the sake of wider audience appeal.

Edited by AlleyOop on Mar 29th 2022 at 11:05:27 AM

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#254: Mar 29th 2022 at 8:29:27 AM

https://www.cbr.com/mcu-moon-knight-tv-series-review/

And another review. Also in the good, not great range but more praise for Isaac. Also a lot of reviews noting that this seems fairly disconnected from the MCU as a whole, but then I think its only the first 4 episodes reviewers have seen so that might change in the last 2.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#255: Mar 29th 2022 at 10:12:52 AM

The reviews seem to generally be on the middle-of-the-road with half saying "it's too surreal" and others saying "it's not surreal enough". What's specially frustrating is that a lot of reviews add that episode four ends with a massive game-changer but no one has seen the last two to tell if that pays off.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#256: Mar 29th 2022 at 10:19:17 AM

Part of what I'm finding frustrating with that is that it sounds like the story is all about "Steven" and I guess we finally start learning about Mark in those last two episodes.

And this is kind of my "inventing a guy to be mad at", but it doesn't seem like great Jewish representation to me if Mark isn't really characterized for much of the series (unless "Steven" is also Jewish?) and he's the Superpowered Evil Side.

Edited by Hodor2 on Mar 29th 2022 at 12:19:40 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#257: Mar 29th 2022 at 10:24:40 AM

The sense I'm getting is that neither of the two are a Superpowered Evil Side. Marc is just far more ruthless and violent while Steve is gentle and conflict avoidant. The Marc half of the equation (of being morally ambiguous and ruthless) is true to his comic self, at least.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#259: Mar 29th 2022 at 12:09:05 PM

Uh, the fish/character feels comfortable in what seems like a safe haven but is actually deadly?

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#261: Mar 29th 2022 at 1:28:13 PM

Pepperidge Farm goldfish crackers product placement confirmed. [lol]

Also, in some current offerings, Goldfish share their cartoonish packages with cracker creations modeled on Disney characters, the cast of Marvel Avengers or other childhood celebrities.

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The Tapestry Weaver
#262: Mar 29th 2022 at 2:49:48 PM

[up][up][up][up] Quick! Keep him safe from Aquaman!

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Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#264: Mar 30th 2022 at 3:50:56 AM

The 1st episode was a pretty good start. Steven is very easy to sympathize and is rather endearing. I like the blackout scenes and I am actually quite interested about Ethan Hawke's character. I can't wait for the next episode.

The Final Name
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#265: Mar 30th 2022 at 5:52:17 AM

Agreed, a good start. Very effective at showing just how weird and confusing it is for Steven. The bad guy makes a strong first impression too.

Steven is quite charming in a milquetoast kind of way but needs to get some agency if he is not going to end up being irritating IMO - there's a risk he's just a little bit too gormlessly hapless for me.

Edited by jakobitis on Mar 30th 2022 at 5:53:11 AM

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#266: Mar 30th 2022 at 5:54:57 AM

Wow what a great beggining, Oscar is killing it. Loved the episode and crazyness of all it, but given that they already confirm all the egiptian mythology as true in the first episode, it kinda lost the hook of it being real or just Steevn imagination.

Uh, the fish/character feels comfortable in what seems like a safe haven but is actually deadly?

Given today episode, that was an incredible spot on guess.

Edited by eligram on Mar 30th 2022 at 8:55:25 AM

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#267: Mar 30th 2022 at 6:05:27 AM

Well given that we know Norse mythology is "real" in the MCU I think trying to play it like this was just Steve's imagination would have come across as a failed attempt at The Un-Twist at best.

Edited by jakobitis on Mar 30th 2022 at 6:05:57 AM

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#268: Mar 30th 2022 at 6:39:36 AM

Gotta wonder what Thor would think of what's going on here if he hadn't hauled ass with the Guardians. He might not actually know if Egyptian gods exist, but it wouldn't hurt to ask, right?

I thought the first episode was really cool. A genuinely neat mystery that plays with the Split Personality stuff really well, and both the hero(s) and villain are interesting characters. Curious where we're gonna go from here.

I do have one question in regards to the character page for Marc Spector / Steven Grant / Moon Knight / Mr. Knight. Shouldn't we like, separate those identities out, kinda like how Elliot Anderson's alters are on his character page for Mr. Robot? I know he doesn't have enough tropes to warrant him getting his own page, but I feel that trying to mash all the personas into one character folder is gonna get really messy going forward.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Mar 30th 2022 at 6:40:08 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#269: Mar 30th 2022 at 6:54:59 AM

I'd say yes, but only once we actually have enough for each of them. At this point we have only had Steven in focus and about 30 seconds of MK and Marc.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#270: Mar 30th 2022 at 7:01:26 AM

It's also not clear if Marc and Moon Knight are distinct personalities.

If anything, the implication from the end of the episode is that the Moon Knight is simply a power that Marc can invoke, rather then a whole separate personality.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#271: Mar 30th 2022 at 7:05:47 AM

One review implied that Marc turns into MK! Classic, whereas Steven becomes Mr Knight when they power up. Not sure if that's accurate though.

Edited by jakobitis on Mar 30th 2022 at 7:06:21 AM

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#272: Mar 30th 2022 at 8:35:53 AM

From what I've thought about, maybe Marc is the servant of the bird-skull dude but died and his spirit needed a body to fight Harrow so they just took Steven's?

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#273: Mar 30th 2022 at 9:25:59 AM

My overall guess is that Marc has legitimate MPD and the Steven personality, which may of always been around to some extent, simply became much stronger as a result of his experiences with Konshu.

There's definitely some hints that Steven's life is kind of fake. For instance he keeps calling his "mother" and leaving messages, but he has yet to actually speak to her.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#274: Mar 30th 2022 at 10:41:07 AM

Yeah, I'm thinking that Marc was the original "real" personality but for some reason the alter Steven has ended up being in control more than usual.

For example there's the fact Steven has never managed to actually talk to his mother, where Marc clearly was in contact with Layla. There's also the fact that Harrow instantly recognised the body but identified it as a mercenary, i.e Marc. Plus Khonshu said "the idiot is back" suggesting his original dealings were also with Marc.

Edited by jakobitis on Mar 30th 2022 at 10:43:05 AM

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#275: Mar 30th 2022 at 11:13:06 AM

There's also the possibility that an apartment like his with all that stuff in it wouldn't be nearly paid enough on the salary of a museum gift shop employee, even if they did work for the British Museum. Or maybe Marc deliberately cultivated MPD somehow to give himself a cover?


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