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The Ambiguity Index lists all the disambiguation pages on the wiki. However, I've noticed that quite a few of them, particularly the ones in the Main namespace and are former tropes from TRS threads, are full of wicks from people not reading the disambiguation page.

Obviously this is because of terrible troping habits, but after running into Mismatched Eyes and discovering that page alone has over 800 wicks, I thought a more formal cleanup might be in order to get some help removing the wicks to these.

This sandbox is being used to track our progress: Sandbox.Ambiguity Index Clean Up Project

Edited by Eiryu on Feb 26th 2022 at 5:09:47 AM

Eiryu Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1: Jan 10th 2022 at 8:55:16 AM

The Ambiguity Index lists all the disambiguation pages on the wiki. However, I've noticed that quite a few of them, particularly the ones in the Main namespace and are former tropes from TRS threads, are full of wicks from people not reading the disambiguation page.

Obviously this is because of terrible troping habits, but after running into Mismatched Eyes and discovering that page alone has over 800 wicks, I thought a more formal cleanup might be in order to get some help removing the wicks to these.

This sandbox is being used to track our progress: Sandbox.Ambiguity Index Clean Up Project

Edited by Eiryu on Feb 26th 2022 at 5:09:47 AM

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#2: Jan 10th 2022 at 8:58:55 AM

Foe Yay also has, er... problems. But I'm planning to just re-TRS that one.

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#3: Jan 10th 2022 at 9:00:57 AM

Tbh I think it would work as its own trope

Since it's pretty clear attempts to dewick it haven't worked at all.

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#4: Jan 10th 2022 at 9:10:31 AM

I'm ready to give up on Foe Yay, since its parallel to Ho Yay makes it easy to misuse.

If anyone is up for a long project, Incredibly Lame Pun is a persistent one.

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#6: Jan 10th 2022 at 10:14:36 AM

Oh, interesting, I have found TRS Wick Cleaning, which probably also has a good list of targets. I didn't know that was a page.

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#7: Jan 10th 2022 at 10:29:19 AM

Mismatched Eyes has been on that list for years. I am not sure how it grew that fast from the last time the page was turned into a disambiguation. Every time I attempted to clean it, the wicks grew back so I gave up. It also has a short term clean up thread but that hasn't gotten traction.

I'd say most disambiguations that used to be tropes have grown back some of their wicks because people add them by memory instead of checking the page.

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#8: Jan 10th 2022 at 10:30:21 AM

@Tabs: At this point so many people treat it as a trope. We might as well make it one.

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#9: Jan 10th 2022 at 10:30:28 AM

Just more evidence that we could seriously use a "disambiguation" icon similar to the Flame Bait or YMMV ones.

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#10: Jan 10th 2022 at 10:31:37 AM

I've noticed that, yeah. I've received comments from tropers after sending notifiers that the link was blue so they figured it was fine.

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#11: Jan 10th 2022 at 10:36:18 AM

@ miraculous: I think Incredibly Lame Pun is mostly just...used as a pothole.

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#12: Jan 10th 2022 at 10:38:30 AM

Oh sorry Eiryu. I was talking to Tabs about Foe Yay

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#13: Jan 10th 2022 at 10:39:10 AM

TBH, I'm surprised Incredibly Lame Pun is a disambig and not, like, a redirect or something. I've seen it used so often that it makes more sense to me.

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#14: Jan 10th 2022 at 10:44:57 AM

I think Incredibly Lame Pun is one of those sinkhole magnet pages that are near impossible to keep clean. I don’t think clean up is feasible, honestly.

Oh and according to Pothole Magnet, ILP used to be a redirect to Pun. I am not sure if the decision to turn it into a disambiguation was actually approved or not.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 10th 2022 at 1:48:07 PM

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#15: Jan 10th 2022 at 11:09:04 AM

It was made by a troper named TheTearsOfOpaOpa

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#16: Jan 10th 2022 at 11:22:30 AM

Yeah, that's unilateral and messes things up in a way that having it as a redirect didn't.

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#17: Jan 10th 2022 at 11:43:43 AM

I added some of these pages to my to-do list a while ago: Origin Story (729), Road Trip (44), and Muppet Babies (248).

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#18: Jan 10th 2022 at 12:49:44 PM

I am currently working on cleaning up WesternAnimation.The Hunchback Of Notre Dame which currently has 883 wicks, so it is quite a big task.

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#19: Jan 11th 2022 at 2:17:13 AM

I've backed out the Incredibly Lame Pun disambiguation - the redirect works perfectly well and the disambiguation will only mislead tropers into making edits there never was consensus for.

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#20: Jan 11th 2022 at 2:21:48 AM

This is, like, semi-related, but do you think it would be worth making UsefulNotes.Heterochromia to catch a lot of the Mismatched Eyes wicks? I've noticed in most cases people just tend to wick Mismatched Eyes to make an example more concise, as it's shorter than "this character has two different eye colors" — hell, I did that too before finding out it was a disambig.

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#21: Jan 11th 2022 at 4:07:57 AM

Blondes Are Evil has 172 wicks that need to be cleaned. While I am still an amateur at wick cleaning, I will try to clean up the wicks.

I support the idea of UsefulNotes.Heterochromia, provided the page discusses how fiction depicts those with such.

Edited by callmeamuffin on Jan 11th 2022 at 10:10:38 PM

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#25: Jan 14th 2022 at 12:03:14 PM

The Presidents is more than halfway there.

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