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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#201: Apr 2nd 2022 at 2:04:14 PM

Also, here's some notable dialouge. Wanda brings up that there are other Avengers, but Strange quips back that this would help get her back on a lunch box.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#202: Apr 2nd 2022 at 4:02:20 PM

There really aren't that many Avengers out there though, at least not ones who can handle mystical threats like what's shown in Multiverse of Madness. A good chunk of the remaining are just really skilled Badass Normals, and the superempowered ones are either in space, or spread across the globe and unknown to everyone yet.

The only other person I can think of other than Wanda who might be able to help with the Multiverse threat is probably Shang-Chi, and something tells me he's not gonna show up.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Apr 2nd 2022 at 4:02:41 AM

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FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#203: Apr 2nd 2022 at 5:11:12 PM

Shang-Chi did meet Wong in the end credits of his movie, so I wouldn't be totally ahocked if he showed up. But given the lack of him in the trailers so far, and the lack of need to conceal his presence, he'd probably be making more of a cameo than anything.

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FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#205: Apr 2nd 2022 at 7:12:49 PM

Surely one existed at some point? At least in an ensemble with the X-Men if nothing else.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#206: Apr 2nd 2022 at 7:36:03 PM

Well, the Age of Ultron merch infamously left her out of a lot of it because of Perlmutter, but I think she'd probably be in an ensemble on some Civil War or Infinity War merch. I don't know if there's a WandaVision lunchbox.

EDIT: On WandaVision lunchboxes: just checked Google, found some fanmade ones on Etsy and the like but nothing official.

EDIT #2: Also looked up what Infinity War lunchboxes looked like. She wasn't on any of them.

EDIT #3: Aha! She was on an official Civil War "Team Cap" lunch tin!

Curiously, the corresponding "Team Stark" one doesn't have Spider-Man on it. Weird.

I'm also sure there's probably some 616-based lunchbox out there with her hidden in a large ensemble. Something like one of these posters.

Well, this was certainly a journey.

Edited by lbssb on Apr 2nd 2022 at 7:50:21 AM

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dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#207: Apr 3rd 2022 at 6:18:09 AM

It's also interesting that Wanda still considers herself an Avenger. I think the MCU could be borrowing a page from the comics, where Wanda is a very morally grey character but typically views herself as a hero, or at least tries to make up for her mistakes even when the other Avengers / mutants / whoever reject her. And Wanda also tends to convince herself she is doing the right thing even when everyone else tells her she isn't.

It's something that might be interesting to put to the test, considering that Agatha mocked her in WandaVision by saying "heroes don’t torture people", and that pushed her to let everybody in the Hex go. I can see her desperately wanting to make up for her mistakes.

At the moment, Wanda probably doesn’t think of herself as good and that's why she appears to be pushing back against Strange reaching out to her. She probably doubts her capabilities to truly help Strange, but then again, we don’t know all of Wanda’s motives in this movie. Does she want to be left alone? Does she want to keep herself secluded? She probably wants to find her sons, which may push her into helping Strange.

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#208: Apr 3rd 2022 at 6:27:26 AM

After WandaVision, I don't think any of the remaining Avengers (or, really, anyone) feel too good about her - she's proven herself to be an astoundingly dangerous and destructive person with way too much power for her own good and disturbingly little control over abilities that are at least at the planetbuster level and are likely a universal or multiversal threat. Strange probably identifies with her at least a little bit because he also very nearly destroyed the fabric of reality, but he at least seems to understand how badly he fucked up, while Wanda still seems to be in full denial over just how much of a problem she is. Odds are that none of the others want her around and don't know what to do with her.

Edited by HasturHasturHastur on Apr 3rd 2022 at 7:28:38 AM

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#209: Apr 3rd 2022 at 7:20:10 AM

With the confirmed 2 hour runtime, this movie is probably going to be a pretty basic movie about Doctor Strange, Wanda, Wong, and Chavez, and every other appearance is just going to be a quick cameo. I bet a lot of people are going to be extremely underwhelmed.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#210: Apr 3rd 2022 at 8:55:57 AM

Sam Raimi made Army of Darkness, an 88-minute movie, feel like an epic. I feel like this will be packed to the gills with good content if nothing else.

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#211: Apr 3rd 2022 at 9:29:11 AM

I honestly don't expect too many cameos beyond the Illuminati and Bruce Campbell (that is, if he's not part of it).

Edited by lbssb on Apr 3rd 2022 at 9:30:05 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#212: Apr 3rd 2022 at 10:48:11 AM

It's also interesting that Wanda still considers herself an Avenger.

Judging from the conversation in the trailer, it seems less that Wanda considers herself an Avenger and more that Strange considers her an Avenger still.

He goes "I need an Avenger" and she responds "you should pick literally anybody else."

fanman "To watch it all burn." from Earth-Prime/Earth-1218 Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#213: Apr 3rd 2022 at 11:20:55 AM

I know this people have heard this a billion times, but when I saw the red monsters, I immediately thought Mephisto. I know it's just a joke at this point, but I thought it was funny.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#214: Apr 3rd 2022 at 5:13:37 PM

[up][up] Speaking of that scene, you think that bit of Strange and Wanda talking in the orchard with the sheep in the background is them talking in the real world or is that an astral projection? Because if it's the latter, then that would likely mean they're actually in Wanda's cabin and Wanda's like, "Okay, I've got the ornamental cherry trees all spaced out perfectly. The grass is green. The sky is blue. There's one thing I need to complete the picture: SHEEP!"

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#215: Apr 3rd 2022 at 5:17:29 PM

One thing I hope is that America Chavez is given a good boost in popularity so people would stop constantly complaining every time she appears or is mentioned.

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#216: Apr 3rd 2022 at 5:20:24 PM

Someone who can cross multiverses and alternate timelines at will is going to be very useful against Kang, I’m sure.

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#217: Apr 3rd 2022 at 5:26:41 PM

[up]Given that the Young Avengers are clearly going to be a thing, that would probably also be how they would find at least Kid Loki and possibly Iron Lad (if he doesn't find them first), and could maybe have something to do with Wiccan and Speed manifesting. It could also explain how Mother would find them.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#218: Apr 3rd 2022 at 5:30:17 PM

Y'know, it's kind of cool how the Multiverse is this thing that can be analyzed/manipulated through both sci-fi and mystical lenses. We got Loki, Doctor Strange and his supporting cast helping us look at it through the latter, and the Avengers, the TVA and Ant-Man providing the former viewpoint.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#219: Apr 3rd 2022 at 5:40:15 PM

This is something that sort of reflects our real world percpetion of it as well. Multiverse theory is such a fringe science (as it were) that it also treads on a lot of quasi-mystical ground. Telepathy is similar, and likewise tends to cross over between both.

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#220: Apr 4th 2022 at 11:07:21 AM

Both of them are at the point where Clarke's Third Law really does seem to find real life application.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#221: Apr 4th 2022 at 11:25:46 AM

[up] This is what I was trying to say in my previous post, but couldn't figure out how to properly say it, nor did I know Clarke's Third Law existed on TV Tropes. Thank you.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#222: Apr 4th 2022 at 12:39:46 PM

Clarke's Third Law has been a thing in the MCU since the first Thor.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#223: Apr 4th 2022 at 1:08:29 PM

[up] I mean yes, but I just think it's neat how we're really putting it to the test regarding the Multiverse, and how we're looking at it through several different perspectives of varying backgrounds.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#224: Apr 4th 2022 at 1:15:27 PM

One thing I love about both Marvel and DC universes is how both go gung-ho on Science Fantasy / Crossover Cosmology meaning that anything and everything is workable in the same massive boat. Like the Marvel Universe actively has multiple means of time travel, with different rules applying depending on whether it's being done through technological or magical means. And as confusing as that might be on the more casual audience it's worth it for all the shenanigans.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#225: Apr 6th 2022 at 7:07:46 AM

We got another teaser here! grin

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