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themayorofsimpleton he/him from a record store Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
Dec 28th 2021 at 8:37:35 AM

It's been pretty close to 3 days and it's unanimous, 30-0. I think it might be safe to call.

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GrafVonTirol It's all in the mind from the Sea of Holes Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
It's all in the mind
Dec 28th 2021 at 1:06:40 PM

Yeah, does seem like a forgone conclusion, but we still have a few hours left.

It doesn't really matter what chords I play, what words I say or time of day it is, as it's only a Northern song.
WarJay77 She's a cute red monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
She's a cute red monster
Dec 28th 2021 at 1:25:45 PM

I'm still not entirely sure what your issue is, Septimus. Your posts are getting a bit vague.

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GastonRabbit MOD The world's forgotten boy (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
The world's forgotten boy (he/him)
Dec 28th 2021 at 4:50:12 PM

Calling in favor of moving the Mohs scales to the SlidingScale/ namespace.

I am a passenger, and I ride and I ride....
GastonRabbit The world's forgotten boy (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
The world's forgotten boy (he/him)
Dec 28th 2021 at 5:28:03 PM

Pages moved and indexed on SlidingScale.Home Page.

Here are the wicks:

Edit: Added to TRS Wick Cleaning.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 28th 2021 at 7:58:19 AM

I am a passenger, and I ride and I ride....
SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Dec 29th 2021 at 1:07:10 AM

Why would you want to have three pages in two different namespaces discussing the same concepts?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
WarJay77 She's a cute red monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
She's a cute red monster
Dec 29th 2021 at 1:14:19 AM

Because one's a game about sorting works into categories and the other is an informative page talking about the information in more depth. Sort of like the difference between a trope page and a useful notes page / analysis page on the same subject. I just don't find it all that redundant if the two pages (two, not three in this case) would serve different functions and discuss the topic with a different amount of depth and seriousness.

I've also no clue what you mean by "wrong namespace". Nobody's talking about sending it to JFF anymore if that's what you're getting at.

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SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Dec 29th 2021 at 1:24:48 AM

SlidingScale is a problem namespace. Back in the day when it was created, we had serious problems with these pages being meaningless distinctions that attracted shoehorning and bickering.

The idea of having two different writeups and pages with different scopes here sounds like a total afterthought to me, honestly. This is why I am so sceptical - it just sounds like the sort of thing that people come up to retroactively justify a move of debatable merits.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GrafVonTirol It's all in the mind from the Sea of Holes Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
It's all in the mind
Dec 29th 2021 at 5:33:26 AM

Lyrical Hardness has now been thoroughly dewicked. That was the easy part given the wick count and the Rock and Metal Hardness entries I also take down along the way.

It doesn't really matter what chords I play, what words I say or time of day it is, as it's only a Northern song.
Dec 29th 2021 at 3:09:41 PM

I'm a little disappointed that we lose the name "Mohs Scale of Rock and Metal Hardness" because I think it was a really witty name (the real life Mohs scale is actually applied to minerals such as rocks and metals, so I found it funny that we applied it to rock and metal music).

EDIT:Oh, I misunderstood the situation. So we don't actually lose the name, we just dewick it due to the namespace move?

Edited by Snicka on Dec 29th 2021 at 12:10:57 PM

Walkinshadows from Arson City Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Dec 29th 2021 at 5:07:08 PM

Yes, it's not supposed to be used as a trope.

I donít care about the hero or the heroine, I only care about the comic relief sidekick.
GastonRabbit The world's forgotten boy (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
The world's forgotten boy (he/him)
Dec 29th 2021 at 11:35:03 PM

[up][up]Yeah, we're not changing the names. We're just changing the namespace from Main/ to SlidingScale/, since they're Sliding Scales and not tropes.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 29th 2021 at 1:35:50 PM

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FishiousRend Overpowered from living rent-free in Dexiters' heads Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
Overpowered
GastonRabbit The world's forgotten boy (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
The world's forgotten boy (he/him)
Dec 30th 2021 at 6:13:58 AM

[up]That would require a new thread. This thread is only for the Mohs scales.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 30th 2021 at 8:14:26 AM

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GrafVonTirol It's all in the mind from the Sea of Holes Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
It's all in the mind
Dec 31st 2021 at 10:20:18 AM

Whew! At last, Rock and Metal has been dewicked. The ones remaining are a ghost wick, a project-related wick and five from pages being cutlisted.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Dec 31st 2021 at 10:27:58 AM

It doesn't really matter what chords I play, what words I say or time of day it is, as it's only a Northern song.
GrafVonTirol It's all in the mind from the Sea of Holes Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
It's all in the mind
Jan 1st 2022 at 5:56:34 AM

Violence done too

It doesn't really matter what chords I play, what words I say or time of day it is, as it's only a Northern song.
eroock Relationship Status: -not set
Jan 1st 2022 at 10:59:48 AM

Where is the Sliding Scale list that all the removed examples are being placed on?

Edited by eroock on Jan 1st 2022 at 11:01:08 AM

Walkinshadows from Arson City Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jan 2nd 2022 at 5:19:46 PM

[up] Here (If that's what you mean?)

Edited by Walkinshadows on Jan 2nd 2022 at 8:20:42 AM

I donít care about the hero or the heroine, I only care about the comic relief sidekick.
Zuxtron Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel from Node 03 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Jan 2nd 2022 at 6:38:29 PM

I installed a search-and-replace browser plugin and set it to replace "MohsScaleOf" with "SlidingScale/MohsScaleOf". Though once I get to the work pages, I'll have to actually check whether it's being used as an actual trope.

Edited by Zuxtron on Jan 2nd 2022 at 9:49:04 AM

Arawn999 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Jan 8th 2022 at 2:31:11 PM

So we're not allowed to link to it or mention it at all on any of the pages, then?

WarJay77 She's a cute red monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
She's a cute red monster
Jan 8th 2022 at 2:32:22 PM

Were we ever allowed to?

Serious question. This was never actually a trope AFAIK, so IDK if we were ever supposed to crosswick it in the first place. I could be wrong though.

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Arawn999 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Jan 8th 2022 at 2:34:03 PM

[up] Not just crosswick it, but link to or otherwise mention it in other examples.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
Jan 8th 2022 at 2:34:49 PM

I thought it was a trope, at least in type-only, and we've decided that no it shouldn't be a trope type or to be listed.

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Arawn999 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Jan 9th 2022 at 2:21:58 PM

Mmm, but I've seen people going through and removing any and all links to the Mohs Scale of Science Fiction Hardness page, for example, not just those listed as tropes.

That strikes me as overkill.

Edited by Arawn999 on Jan 9th 2022 at 2:22:23 AM

GrafVonTirol It's all in the mind from the Sea of Holes Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
It's all in the mind
Jan 9th 2022 at 3:52:20 PM

I do believe there's gotta be a trope or index for science fiction works that opt for a more grounded approach (the higher end of the hardness scale), even making Hard Science Fiction into its own page as opposed to a redirect. Perhaps making the subpages within Mohs into their own trope pages?

Anyways, all wicks taken care of. The wicks on writing guides and a fair number of JFF pages should be fine.

For those interested, the wick list has been preserved for reference for quite a while.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Jan 9th 2022 at 3:56:26 AM

It doesn't really matter what chords I play, what words I say or time of day it is, as it's only a Northern song.

Trope Repair Shop: Mohs Scales
25th Dec '21 7:01:28 PM

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Should the Mohs Scales (Mohs Scale Of Rock And Metal Hardness, Mohs Scale Of Lyrical Hardness, Mohs Scale Of Science Fiction Hardness, and Mohs Scale Of Violence Hardness) be moved to the SlidingScale/ namespace?

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