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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#326: Apr 17th 2022 at 3:37:05 PM

Fantastic Beasts isn't really doing super well. As of this writing it's only grossed about 191 million worldwide on a 200 million dollar budget which doesn't include marketing costs. Given the common wisdom about films needing to make back twice their budget to be profitable, it's not looking good.

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#327: Apr 17th 2022 at 3:56:09 PM

What I said about appealing to China is being taken out of context. All I meant is that much of the plot revolves around a mythical creature from China. That's it.

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#328: Apr 17th 2022 at 4:21:18 PM

[up]But they're not an exclusive Chinese mythological creature.

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#329: Apr 17th 2022 at 5:24:48 PM

[up][up]Would it have helped if they used the Japanese spelling instead or would it open another can of worms?

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#330: Apr 17th 2022 at 11:08:51 PM

[up][up][up][up] Guess Fantastic Beasts is done.

I read the summary and I really feel I would have enjoyed the Dumbledore and Grindelwald scenes. I’m a big fan of evil former lovers as a trope.

I found it straight up hilarious that the writers just let Grindelwald escape for potential sequels. That aren’t happening.

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#331: Apr 18th 2022 at 12:24:07 AM

[up]Well, Grindelwald won't be defeated until 1945, when World War II ends. That's in the first Harry Potter book.

clockworkboy Since: Jun, 2013
#332: Apr 18th 2022 at 12:31:22 AM

I think WB will try and do at least one more. They're a persistent studio I'll give em that, although they need to seriously consider bringing some new people on to these wizarding world projects because relying solely on JK Rowling and David Yates isn't going to cut it anymore.

Edited by clockworkboy on Apr 18th 2022 at 12:35:47 PM

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Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#333: Apr 18th 2022 at 1:51:52 AM

At the least, they have to stop letting Rowling write the screenplays. She's awful at it, and hasn't improved in 3 tries.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#334: Apr 18th 2022 at 2:01:21 AM

Granted they did give Zack Snyder like 4 movies.

He made Suckpunch which ad mixed reception, then he made Man of Steel also mixed if profitable which lead them to make him the then architect of the DCEU.

Which next came Bv S which was mostly maligned and similarly unsuccessful in profits and still they gave him a fourth movie in Justice League which he never got to finish then due to an unrelated tragedy.

So like 2 mediocre movies and one bad one, and yet they still saw fit to give him one more movie in spite of all that. WB can be very insistent on making things work.

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clockworkboy Since: Jun, 2013
#335: Apr 18th 2022 at 3:44:18 AM

WB can be very insistent on making things work.

I mean imagine telling someone back in 2017 that WB would make another Suicide Squad movie and it'd actually be really good to great. They had plenty of reasons not to do another one but they did and it worked out for them in some aspects.

As much crap as some people give WB, they do take risks and have managed to pull off minor miracles from time to time. Nobody expected the Aquaman movie to make a billion dollars but somehow it did, The Dune movie actually turned out good and didn't flop at the box office and is getting a sequel, and The Batman was very well received and did great numbers despite the skepticism surrounding the casting of Robert Pattinson. They're an interesting studio to observe for sure.

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#336: Apr 18th 2022 at 2:27:26 PM

Surprised though that this movie isn't "same time in theaters" like The Batman or their other recent films in HBO Max.

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up]I actually thought it wasn't the qilin based on how they pronounce it even though it looked like the mythological creature.

Edited by Ookamikun on Apr 18th 2022 at 5:28:32 PM

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#337: Apr 18th 2022 at 4:32:06 PM

[up] WB ended their simul-release plan back in January. Under the condition between theater chains and the studio, WB's films will have a shorten home release of 45 days to HBO Max and other VOD services. note  The Batman, for example, just hit the platform today.

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#338: Apr 18th 2022 at 6:23:52 PM

Wait, How is Queenie a Dumbledore spy??? I thought part of the point to the last film's climax is that Grindlewald had a "Loyalty Test Firewall" to weed out those who'd betray him? And Queenie passed that test???

TBH, as far as LGBT representation, I do kinda also think that this film series was doomed from the get go. Mostly because... even in the most PRO-LGBT of hands... it's still a romance where one side is Wizard!Hitler.

It's tragic and I think there are ways to make it work but ones that don't... scream great representation in an already starved field. I'm down for my tragic star-crossed lovers but... this was never a romance the audience should feel excited about anyway.

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#339: Apr 18th 2022 at 7:02:40 PM

Even if this series hadn’t gotten mired in a dozen different disasters, I’m kinda glad more likely won’t be adapted. The climax of this series would’ve been Dumbledore’s final duel against Grindelwald armed with a fully mastered Elder Wand. It’s called one of the greatest duels of all time, and, well, there’s no way it would’ve lived up to readers’ wildest imaginations.

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#340: Apr 18th 2022 at 9:07:52 PM

[up][up][up]Huh, that explains why on certain movies it has a 45 day gap, even outside WB.

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#341: Apr 21st 2022 at 12:41:55 PM

Has anyone else seen the movie yet? I saw it earlier this week and I thought it was pretty good, although I enjoyed Crimes of Grindelwald as well.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#342: Apr 21st 2022 at 3:53:32 PM

I'm torn over whether to go see it because while I do enjoy Harry Potter and thought the movies weren't that bad, we do have Rowling to deal with and I don't want to support her.

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#343: Apr 21st 2022 at 4:14:05 PM

I'll honestly probably wait till this one's on HBO Max.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#344: Apr 21st 2022 at 4:22:08 PM

The pitching meeting for the movie came out and I love how it just talks about a probably better story beat the movie should have gone with

As in the Qilin instead of Dumbledore should have instead chosen Jacob to Grindelwald and anti-human wizards would grapples with the clear knowledge that a human can be pure hearted.

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#345: Apr 21st 2022 at 9:40:14 PM

Okay so on the suggestion of the cleanup thread, I decided to see if I would see if anyone here could help. Fantastic Beasts Gellert Grindelwald is a thing now. The page is big enough being well over the 40,000 byte limit, but Fantastic Beasts: Grindelwald's Army is only 27,466 bytes without him. So, either we merge him back or find a way to make the OG page bigger. Unfortunately I haven't seen the new film so I can't expand the OG page. I was wondering if you guys had any idea how or if you think it would be safer to just merge him back?

Edited by Bullman on Apr 21st 2022 at 11:41:06 AM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#346: Apr 21st 2022 at 10:02:35 PM

Just leave it. I don’t think we should be jumping to split just because a character reaches the threshold.

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#347: Apr 21st 2022 at 10:37:41 PM

...How...

How does he have THAT many tropes???

Surely there have to be tropes in there that just aren't relevant???

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#348: Apr 21st 2022 at 10:41:25 PM

Yeah, the character entry should be squeaky clean of misuse/misplaced plot tropes/zce etc before it’s split. I barely remember the second film so I will not be the one to clean it [lol]

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#349: Apr 21st 2022 at 11:34:16 PM

I am not asking if it should be split. I am saying that someone else already split it. I am asking if you guys think it should be merged back or not.

Edited by Bullman on Apr 21st 2022 at 1:40:03 PM

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#350: Apr 22nd 2022 at 4:23:09 AM

I think it's telling that the movie has been out for two weeks now (or just one week if you're American like me) and yet—aside from some light mockery of the film's plot—I've seen very little discussion of it, both on here and on other sites.


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