In what way? I actually think he was quite consistent.
In being a horrible, entitled "All take and no give" friend with severe daddy issues (trying to please him even in death, despite being the victim of much psychological abuse from him), who had a Redemption Equals Death moment after finally coming to terms with both himself and his father.
Edited by Forenperser on Nov 28th 2021 at 10:20:24 AM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianYes, the Raimi Harry was always acting as he did basically due to his Daddy Issues. Exacy how he acted did change based on how his feelings about and knowledge of his father, but that makes sense to me.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."To be fair, it does depend on how much you buy the concept that his character is supposed to be changeable and erratic for the above reasons.
If you buy that, then his characterisation makes sense, of you don't then he does come across as just written inconsistently instead. It worked for me but I can see why not everyone would like it.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."My problem with Harry wasn't the writing which I felt made sense, a character devolving over three films. It was the acting, I never bought James Franco as the character or as a good actor personally, which I feel makes him come as far too unlikeable to a degree that even the script didn't plan for. So, I didn't really see any character getting worse and then redeeming himself, just a really smug and unlikeable friend from start to end.
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadThe films took a lot of cues from the 90s series. That was my main exposure to Spidey as a child, so imagine my surprise when I pick up a Spidey comic and realize that Doc-Ock generally isn't a mentor to Peter Parker. As someone who loves the first two Spidey movies, I think they did Harry just fine.
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And Harry was only brought back post OMD was so Joe Quesada and the other execs could take Spidey to where they thought he was at his best. Being a single bachelor, clubbing with Harry and Flash, and college aged.
Basically the Lee-Romita era all over again. They even were tempted to bring back Gwen Stacy but that was a bit much even for them.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"I say if they really wanted to keep Spider-Man trapped in the past, they might as well have revived Gwen Stacy instead of giving Peter increasingly unlikeable love interests like his land lady and Carlie Cooper.
Like don't half ass it, or you get crap like BND that can't decide if it wants to be like the old Spidey or progress his character artificially.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 28th 2021 at 9:02:24 AM
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"That's because it wasn't just a return to the classic format, it was also at its core an overreaction to the idea of Spidey settling down.
So naturally, they ignored the classic female leads and tried to reintroduce Peter as a freewheeling bachelor with a rotating slew of sparkly new love interests until the fanbase got tired of it.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 28th 2021 at 7:12:22 AM
And now Spider Gwen probably makes them think they don't even need classic Gwen.
Hell, I feel like the reason Gwen's never been seriously revived is because, even to this day, no-one really knows what to do with her.
She was toted as Peter's main love interest for so long, with Stan pushing it harder and harder that it's kinda clear they never figured out who she is outside of that, to the point where Conway was able to kill her off (and he apparently wasn't totally serious about it, and even came up with some ways to potentially bring her back, hence the first clone saga) that never really caught on.
But you could also argue that Gwen was the first victim of this attitude that Peter must be a swinging bachelor long before OMD every became a thing. It was either marry her to Peter (with her maybe learning his secret) or kill her. They chose to kill her and curtail some of the actual story developments she could have had (like dealing with the truth of Peter's identity among other things).
One Strip! One Strip!Th issue is that Gwen have achive a sort of mythical status because his death was something else and afect peter, she become like a sort of female uncle ben so to speak: her death matter more than her life.
Which....yeah, is as awfull as it sound.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"As the old saying goes, the only people who remain dead in comics are Gwen Stacy, Jason Todd, and Bucky Barnes. Those are the sacred cows no writer messes with.
Yeah, that saying's a little outdated, wouldn't you say?
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Gwen is too iconic to ignore, yet far too dull to keep around
Dan Slott brought Gwen back during the Clone Conspiracy, gave her the knowledge of Peter's identity (revealed she learned it the day she died by regaining some consciousness on the bridge), and guess what? She was just as boring as she ever was, and after her 'heroic sacrifice' in that story, they haven't bothered bringing her back as the Conspiracy event was deemed a total sales flop.
Nick Spencer actually followed up on a lot of the clone plotlines that Slott left unresolved, using it to undo post-OMD Harry Osborn's stint in the comics and retcon the Sins Past event, but when it came to including Gwen, he just reduced her to a skeleton corpse again.
Spider-Gwen/Ghost Spider is also boring, the shine has totally come off of her lately as the Spider-Verse has expanded and more interesting characters have come up from it, she can't sustain strong sales at all.
Edited by Zarius on Nov 29th 2021 at 6:06:27 AM

Doc Ock was a pretty well-written character (like all Raimi villains, safe for Venom), don't think this is very surprising.
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