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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
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#301: Feb 18th 2024 at 3:02:33 AM

So you think we'll ever find oit what happened to apocyplse?

This season is using Mr. Sinister as Big Bad. And I'm all fot it as it finally gives a great x men villain his due. But kinda wild the shows main villain is awol.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
EmperorGeode from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
#302: Feb 18th 2024 at 5:15:11 AM

If I had to guess he will either be revelated as Man Behind the Man and be main villain of season finale or he will be set to take over as Big Bad in second season.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#303: Feb 18th 2024 at 5:26:30 AM

I just looked up Wolverine getting his adamantium ripped out.

Holy cow Magneto is one Shakespearean f#@%!%r in the comics.

The original cartoon managed to show Wolverine getting unmade by Proteus and the resulting PTSD with some subtlety, so I think they could handle the above.

Edited by FOFD on Feb 18th 2024 at 8:27:18 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#304: Feb 18th 2024 at 6:03:11 AM

Tina Guo, well-known for Wonder Woman's DCEU theme, did a cover of the X-Men theme song.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#305: Feb 18th 2024 at 6:05:32 AM

Regarding Morph, do we think the bald version is the same person as previously after some therapy (my preference) or a version from an alternate universe?

I’ve read Wiki entries a couple times and I don’t completely understand the Changeling/Morph thing. IIRC the Morph from the cartoon is like a more sympathetic version of a minor villain and that guy has an alternate universe version who is a cool goofball right?

Relatedly, I’m curious, why does one of them have a default “human” appearance and the other (the nice one) looks like a friendly version of the Chameleon?

Edited by Hodor2 on Feb 18th 2024 at 6:08:43 AM

KRider Desire Grand Prix Entry from Origin System Since: Feb, 2021
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#306: Feb 18th 2024 at 6:22:55 AM

Morph's Mutant power in the cartoon was actually more like Mystique's shapeshifting rather than Changeling's power copying. As for his hairless look, that actually is bec of the Age of Apocalypse big event that introduced him to comics and gave him his now-iconic hairless look.

To add more confusion, the Morph from AoA who is inspired by the animated series, is Kevin Sydney and presumably that's also his name here. Meanwhile, Brian Bendis later introduces his version of Morph when he took over Uncanny X-Men who's a gay teen named Benjamin Deeds whose shapeshifting is only limited to a person he's physically close to at the moment.

Edited by KRider on Feb 18th 2024 at 6:30:11 AM

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#307: Feb 18th 2024 at 6:25:49 AM

[up] If I remember right, he was just some guy when he was first introduced. Didn't really have anything distinctive about his default appearance.

KRider Desire Grand Prix Entry from Origin System Since: Feb, 2021
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#308: Feb 18th 2024 at 6:29:36 AM

[up]That's right. Morph's default form in the 1st 5 seasons was just an average white guy. His new appearance this season is more synergy w/ the comics.

Edited by KRider on Feb 18th 2024 at 6:30:40 AM

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#309: Feb 18th 2024 at 7:25:27 AM

I only really know Morph from Exiles, and that also used the AoA look.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Feb 18th 2024 at 10:26:01 AM

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#310: Feb 18th 2024 at 7:42:45 AM

That's bec Morph from Exiles is the same Morph from AoA. He and Blink became popular enough after the event ended that they were transplanted to Exiles.

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Demetrios Lucky Seven from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#311: Feb 18th 2024 at 8:36:12 AM

The original cartoon managed to show Wolverine getting unmade by Proteus and the resulting PTSD with some subtlety

Makes you wish you kept your Phoenix powers a bit longer, eh, Jean? ;)

Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#312: Feb 18th 2024 at 8:53:26 AM

I also imagine that part of why Morph is using the AOA/Exiles design now is simply because it's more visually striking and unique compared to what the show originally used.

Also the amount of "this one is for you, Morph" I've seen since the trailer drop is hilarious.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#313: Feb 18th 2024 at 11:26:40 AM

Watching season 2 of the original cartoon, but perplexed by the decision to have Magneto and Xavier have one scene an episode stuck in the Savage Land. You'd think you'd just have them missing until you dedicated a whole B plot to them.

Anyway, really confused by the Shadow King episode, which is written as if it's a follow up to an episode that doesn't exist.

The Shadow king used to be a mutant Storm worked with in Cario? But then Storm joined the X-Men and Xavier trapped him in the shared subconsciousness of everyone on Planet Earth?

But this isn't really explained because Rogue knows all this, you'd think you'd have Rogue be the view point character so Stone can provide the backstory in a flashback.

TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
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#314: Feb 18th 2024 at 11:37:01 AM

Shadow King having a child Storm working for him in Egypt is taken from Claremont's run.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#315: Feb 18th 2024 at 11:39:55 AM

We know that we join this incarnation of the X-Men In Media Res.

They've been around for a while, enough that Cyclops, Jean and Beast are veteran members and Iceman has left.

Rogue, Gambit, Storm and Wolverine all joined some time after that, and it's possible they've only been a team for a little bit by the time of the first episode.

I'm guessing that a lot of stuff just happened off screen by that time. They were adapting the 90's era of the comics, but channeling a lot of the old school stuff, so that may have something to do with it.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#316: Feb 18th 2024 at 12:55:24 PM

The team being really established in episode 1 is pretty fun, it did however lead to an interesting situation in episode 3 where Magneto is introduced but he's been so estranged from Xavier that he and the X-Men have never heard of each other.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
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#317: Feb 18th 2024 at 12:58:56 PM

Shadow King having a child Storm working for him in Egypt is taken from Claremont's run.

Yeah he used to run a gang of child prostitutes and pickpockets their. It's wild he went from scumny middle eastern crime lord to worldwide threat.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#318: Feb 18th 2024 at 1:03:06 PM

In some ways, the show followed off from Chris Claremont's original intent (which the comics mostly followed - outside of missteps here and there - from the 70s all the way up to Decimation) that the X-Men be a kind of generational series where characters age and grow in defiance of Comic-Book Time, the team and it's structure evolves, and sometimes members retire or die if their stories are finished to make way for new ones. So the show begins with an X-Men team that's been operating for a decent while and parts of the OG team have drifted away and been replaced, and the plot kicks off with Jubilee joining as the newest member (with her character arc from there, like in the comics, being growing from the goofy teenage rookie to an adult and a seasoned superhero). And the show ends (and this season begins) with a major shift in the team dynamics where Xavier is leaving, quite possibly going to die, and Magneto is stepping into his role as patriarch/team leader while the team gets more permanent new members and Scott and Jean expect their first child.

Edited by immortaleditor on Feb 18th 2024 at 1:04:12 AM

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Goku Black
#319: Feb 18th 2024 at 1:04:36 PM

You think they'll say add nightcrawler to the team. Since his cameos were popular in the original and he's easily now one of the franchise's most popular heroes.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#320: Feb 18th 2024 at 1:06:27 PM

@316: And then the episode Cold Comfort comes along and reveals that Cyclops, Jean, and Beast have all fought him before the start of the series. Whoops.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#321: Feb 18th 2024 at 1:12:37 PM

[up][up]It is kinda weird in hindsight that Kurt and Colossus both never joined the team permanently in this version, given how much it draws from the Claremont era and team. In fact, the OG show was pretty hesitant to add new X-Men to the core team, generally preferring to keep the other members from the comics as either independent heroes or as part of other teams. Maybe they were worried they couldn't handle the comic's Loads And Loads Of Characters as well as the comics do and their solution to include everyone without straining their central cast was to just keep the X-Men a small team with a lot of friends.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#322: Feb 18th 2024 at 1:22:00 PM

I know this is old hat, but I really hope that the Kitty Pryde embargo gets lifted for these new episodes, even if she ends up being a one-off guest character.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#323: Feb 18th 2024 at 1:51:50 PM

[up]A small cameo or radically different role is pretty much what'd they have to do with Kitty, since Jubilee filled her role in pretty much every major story of Kitty's that the show adapted.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#324: Feb 18th 2024 at 1:53:53 PM

[up]Also, Bishop.

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TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
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#325: Feb 18th 2024 at 2:01:31 PM

Generation X but Kitty replaces Jubilee.

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