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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#276: Jan 29th 2025 at 10:58:13 AM

We never said that.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#277: Jan 29th 2025 at 11:04:39 AM

"Well, there goes any enthusiasm I might have had for this show. Hope it crashes, burns, and gets replaced by Spider-Man '98, then."

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#278: Jan 29th 2025 at 11:07:35 AM

That's one man, it's not a damn monolith.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#279: Jan 29th 2025 at 12:21:22 PM

Though I will admit, it was a pretty strong reaction. My viewpoint is more, "…Let's just see how the show itself plays out first."

Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#280: Jan 29th 2025 at 12:23:37 PM

It doesn't help because of CERTAIN RL EVENTS THAT WILL NOT BE NAMED, people are extra on edge about this sort of thing, and the fear of bigots in media is not an unfounded one.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#281: Jan 29th 2025 at 12:24:17 PM

This is kind of just showing how sick and tired a lot of people are of the whole "Durhur woke" thing, though. I bet that that guy saying that turned a lot of people off the show immediately simply because they see him as one of those assholes.

BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg.
#282: Jan 29th 2025 at 12:24:55 PM

Let’s see how the viewership holds by tomorrow.

You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#283: Jan 29th 2025 at 12:28:27 PM

[up][up] Never underestimate the amount of people who will tune in to support the actor saying that this show isn't woke.

I'm just watching it for a potential Green Goblin.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#284: Jan 29th 2025 at 12:34:16 PM

To talk about the animation again, this show isn't helped by arriving right after an animated show by the Distinguished Competition, Creature Commandos, which is very beautifully animated making detailed movements and backgrounds work smoothly.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#285: Jan 29th 2025 at 1:06:15 PM

I'm not certain but I am under the impression this Harry Osborn is trans.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jan 29th 2025 at 1:07:00 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#286: Jan 29th 2025 at 1:08:43 PM

Wait what? What's your evidence?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#287: Jan 29th 2025 at 1:24:55 PM

Just the impression I was getting. I could well be wrong but I hope it's the case.

https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Harry_Osborn

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jan 29th 2025 at 1:31:46 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#288: Jan 29th 2025 at 1:26:00 PM

That's a blank photo.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#289: Jan 29th 2025 at 1:32:00 PM

Hopefully fixed.

Like I said, I could be completely wrong.

I hope they go there.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jan 29th 2025 at 1:32:52 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#290: Jan 29th 2025 at 2:12:24 PM

The animation is a problem it's not like What If but it still feels stiff imo.

Just Makima.
BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg.
#291: Jan 29th 2025 at 2:17:09 PM

There are people who seem to like it though.

You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#292: Jan 29th 2025 at 2:46:00 PM

Honestly, I agree that it's easier to get used to it.

There are some elements to the animation that surprised me, especially for a television 3D CGI series where noticeable concessions are made compared to theatrical offerings. There's some populated areas with some lively civilians, and small character details like Spidey's constantly emotive lenses or swaying.

I rationalize that there's an initial uncanny effect with the art direction choice for the 3DCG character models, and the naturalistic character animation (often compared to motion-capture or rotoscoping). The show uses intentionally bright and flat colors with textured black shadows, mimicking the comic inspirations and whatnot, alongside stylized character models. However, the movements is usually more "grounded", instead of being snappy like Spider-Man: Spider-Verse or other 2D action shows.

The closest recent example of Polygon Pictures doing this was their short for Love, Death & Robots. This contrasts their usual approach where "realistically looking projects with natural movement; cel-shaded shows with frame-stepping".

Speaking on X-Men '97, just as many people were complaining about that series' animation in the pre-release cycle as well. Not helping were some confusion on whether or not that show was fully 2D, fully 3DCG, or a mixture until we actually saw the show. I vividly remember some people referring to the pre-release clip of Storm and "Jean's" motherly discussion as "Flash-animated".

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
I'm here for our date, Rose!
#293: Jan 29th 2025 at 2:48:59 PM

[up][up][up][up] I realize the two shows I'm citing specifically are for kids, but given what Disney did to Moon Girl and Win or Lose, I really really doubt they're going there.

Edited by Prowler on Jan 29th 2025 at 3:49:14 AM

BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg.
#294: Jan 29th 2025 at 2:52:19 PM

As far as I know, his voice actor is Cis, so I’m pretty sure that’s just how he looks.

He might be gay, though. You never know.

You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.
Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#295: Jan 29th 2025 at 3:00:03 PM

@Marchen It's Lonnie Lincoln. Though it's a bit strange for him to be near Peter's age and not an albino.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#296: Jan 29th 2025 at 3:36:51 PM

Maybe him gaining albinism will be a side effect of what gives him powers, further alienating him.

Odd fact, Robby Robertson and Lincoln DID go to high school together.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#297: Jan 29th 2025 at 4:05:12 PM

Checked this out.

Despite all the deviations (and a random appearance by Dr. Strange), this more or less feels like another Spider-man retelling.

Had a lot of deep cuts character wise (didn't expect the Wizard, since he's usually a Fantastic Four guy). I'm gonna see how it all plays out.

Spidey's voice actor is still dumb for what he said, and that should have a reckoning, but I'm still checking this out.

One Strip! One Strip!
J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#298: Jan 29th 2025 at 4:25:51 PM

I am interested that Peter gets his Spider powers AFTER Uncle Ben's death (my personal headcanon is that MCU Ben got killed during the Battle of New York, but of course, this doesnt take place in the MCU).

BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg.
#299: Jan 29th 2025 at 4:26:49 PM

It KINDA does… it’s MCU adjacent.

You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#300: Jan 29th 2025 at 4:28:35 PM

  • Queer Establishing Moment: Nico tries to encourage Peter after he finds out that he won't be able to date Pearl due to her dating Lonnie Lincoln.
    Nico: Trust me, Pete, I was hoping it would be one of us.

Maybe it's the Homecoming energy of the Goth Girl best friend trying REALLY HARD to let the boy she likes know she's interested while he is completely enraptured with someone else. Also, I absolutely loved Nico in the Runaways comic and when she was with Victor and Alex. Sorry Karolina/Nico fans, but I always felt she belonged with Xavin or Julie.

Plus this is the kind of crack ship I love that gets canonized, like Peter and Kitty Pryde in the Ultimateverse.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.

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