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The Trailing punctuation in trope custom titles thread, as well as many, many discussions over the past ten and a half years, have made it obvious that we need a centralized discussion thread for page titles. I intend for this thread to be a place to both discuss titles and request they be changed.

(If you're looking to capitalize an existing wikiword, there's a different thread for that. Custom titles are tied to capitalization, so if you need to both recapitalize and custom-title a wikiword, do the capitalization first to avoid a bug in that regard.)


Custom titles must not be used for the following scenarios:

  • Replacing words with symbols or numbers, unless those are part of the official title of the work. A classic case is changing "and" to "&". Only do this if the original title of the work uses that symbol.
    • One specific exception is when a trope title is expressed as a mathematical formula; for example: 2 + Torture = 5. However, Beauty Equals Goodness is not a valid case for substitution.
  • Adding trailing punctuation to the end of a trope name. For work titles, it's acceptable if and only if the punctuation is part of the official title; for example: Airplane!. For tropes, they need to make sense in a sentence and we should not force the writer to use a pothole to remove punctuation. Common offenders include exclamation points and ellipses.
    • Quoted punctuation is allowed. For example: Big "NO!" encloses its punctuation in quotation marks, so it doesn't disrupt a sentence.
  • Adding words that are not present in the WikiWord title.
  • Transliterating titles into other alphabets. This is primarily an English language wiki. We may note a translated work's original name in its original alphabet (e.g. Arabic or Japanese) within the work page text, but the title should be in the Latin alphabet.

(Mod edit 16 Jan 2025 to add guidance)

Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 16th 2025 at 4:38:33 PM

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#901: Mar 13th 2024 at 12:12:02 PM

~Nic Master Trope — Declined your request to custom title Characters.My Hero Academia Artificial Humans to "My Hero Academia - Nomu" because using custom titles to change pages' names is not allowed.

I got a rock for Halloween.
NicMasterTrope (Troper in training)
#902: Mar 13th 2024 at 9:31:19 PM

But no one refers Nomus as “Artificial Humans”. The “Nomus” is official name and “Artificial Humans” is the secondary one. Also, the change of names in custom titles is actually allowed. I’ve seen others’ being approved

Edited by NicMasterTrope on Mar 13th 2024 at 7:34:02 PM

NicMasterTrope (Troper in training)
#903: Mar 13th 2024 at 9:39:46 PM

Also, I’m not planning to change the link itself but to display a different name on the pages

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#904: Mar 13th 2024 at 10:27:49 PM

[up] "the change of names in custom titles is actually allowed"

If you see these, please report them because that's not true.

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#905: Mar 13th 2024 at 10:56:05 PM

~Nethilia

Your request to retitle "ShortRunners" to "Other Short Runners" has been declined.

This would need a page move request, not just a custom title - title changes are generally only for formatting (caps and punctuation etc.).

More generally, Short-Runners is the main trope page — some media types do get their own subpages, but that doesn't make ShortRunners "Other".

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#906: Mar 13th 2024 at 11:23:02 PM

[up] I submitted it but then realized it wasn't something I wanted and didn't know how to cancel it.

I focus on obscure 1990s or graphic Middle Grade Literature novels and dolls. (She or zie, not they.)
NicMasterTrope (Troper in training)
#907: Mar 14th 2024 at 5:40:06 AM

[up][up][up][up]Oh see the problem. I want to move the page, I want to retitle the page instead

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#908: Mar 14th 2024 at 6:45:39 AM

And for that, please check out How to Move a Page.

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#909: Mar 15th 2024 at 3:12:28 AM

Should VideoGame.The BOSSA Jacksepticeye Fan Game be at VideoGame.The Boss A Jacksepticeye Fan Game (capitalised as "BOSS" via wikiword?) EDIT: Also VideoGame.The BOSS Is Nothing.

It's not like Boss is an acronym.

Edited by BlackFaithStar on Mar 15th 2024 at 6:13:37 PM

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#910: Mar 15th 2024 at 7:25:45 AM

Yes, they should have their capitalization fixed in the appropriate thread.

2025: the year it all ends?
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#911: Mar 17th 2024 at 3:03:33 PM

~KPyall

The following request will be declined:

If you want to add extra words to the title, that requires a page move request.

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#912: Mar 17th 2024 at 11:16:04 PM

I’m not surprised… I should’ve read that first. D’oh!

Edited by KPyall on Mar 17th 2024 at 1:16:54 PM

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#913: Mar 18th 2024 at 7:42:33 AM

~Nic Master Trope

Please do not use custom wiki word to replace words with other words. This will require a page move.

The following will be declined:

NicMasterTrope (Troper in training)
#914: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:23:10 AM

But this was allowed to My Hero Academia recap pages so why now it is declined?

NicMasterTrope (Troper in training)
#915: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:26:15 AM

Oh I see the problem. No, I'm not planning to remove the link to the page. I just want to change Custom Display

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#916: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:28:25 AM

Since I now see where to look, I've resubmitted Recap.My Hero Academia custom titles to match their wikiwords.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 18th 2024 at 7:31:08 PM

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NicMasterTrope (Troper in training)
#917: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:33:31 AM

Also, may I request the Villain Hunt arc and Deku vs. Class 1A arc be deleted and fused into one arc because chapter 307-328 belong to one arc

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#918: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:36:51 AM

[up] This thread is specifically for discussing custom titles. If you want to do major changes on recap pages, you can start a Short-Term and invite people who know more about the work there.

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#920: Mar 18th 2024 at 11:14:04 AM

ATT is for issues with or queries about the site and other users. If you want to merge the pages, you’ll have to do it yourself (unless someone else is willing to do so).

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
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#921: Mar 19th 2024 at 7:55:49 AM

I've noticed Deus ex Machina is now spelled as "Deus ex machina" instead of "Deus ex Machina".

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 19th 2024 at 5:56:12 PM

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#922: Mar 19th 2024 at 9:35:40 AM

Submitted a revert request.

2025: the year it all ends?
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#923: Mar 19th 2024 at 10:05:08 AM

~Alpinist

Disambiguating Manhunt -> Manhunt (2024) needs a move request, not just a custom title, so this has been declined.

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#924: Mar 19th 2024 at 10:07:38 AM

~StephenEpsilons

Custom titles are for styling, punctuation and abbreviation.

The request to rename MetalSlugCodeJ -> Metal Slug: Awakening isn't in scope for this.

That would need a page move, not just a custom title, so the request is declined.

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#925: Mar 19th 2024 at 3:56:39 PM

~StephenEpsilons

The repeat request to rename MetalSlugCodeJ -> Metal Slug: Awakening has been declined, for the same reasons given in the previous post). Resubmitting it won't change this — you need to consider a page history move or other options.

(And either type of move needs some level of consensus from other tropers - unilateral page moves are generally a very bad idea)

The request to rename FairyTailStrongestTeam -> Fairy Tail's Strongest Team is declined for the same reasons. Even if you're just adding an extra s, that's not what custom titles are intended for.


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