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Oct 1st 2021 at 11:20:26 AM

So, we're on like, the second day, with... I guess maybe 10 votes, I guess? But big consensus on just swapping with current redirect Mind Control as the new name of the Super-Trope+Index...

What's the description gonna be?

Currently, it's this... We could just swap "trope" for "index"...

A broad index that covers characters and their ability to read, manipulate, or even control the minds/thoughts of other characters. Most often associated with Psychic Powers, these tropes run the gamut from mundane charisma/authority, to Magic and Powers, and to Paranormal Tropes. Extreme forms of mental manipulation even allow you direct access to the victim's body, turning them into a literal puppet to your will.

See also Memory Tropes.

Edited by Malady on Oct 1st 2021 at 11:21:41 AM

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WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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Oct 1st 2021 at 11:21:45 AM

[up] Slow down a little. We need at least three days for the consensus to be finalized, and that's assuming we don't need a crowner.

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Oct 2nd 2021 at 9:42:39 AM

I have a question: what are we going to do about stuff on the index that doesn't inherently involve mind control, like Manipulative Bastard?

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Oct 2nd 2021 at 9:46:31 AM

And Meditation Powerup...

We do have the Psychology Tropes Index...

Edited by Malady on Oct 2nd 2021 at 9:46:47 AM

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 2nd 2021 at 3:28:03 PM

Made a crowner since two suggestions (turning this into a supertrope and swapping the name Mind Manipulation with Mind Control) have had a lot of positive feedback.

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 5th 2021 at 2:51:06 AM

Bumping because the crowner never got hooked. I also removed the "not mutually exclusive with..." parenthetical text from all the individual crowner entries and added "Options are not mutually exclusive" to the header, since none of the options are mutually exclusive with each other. (I didn't change anything else in the options' text, so nobody's votes were changed.)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 5th 2021 at 4:51:44 AM

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Oct 5th 2021 at 3:11:58 AM

Attached it.

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Berrenta MOD Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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Oct 9th 2021 at 9:24:38 PM

Name swap and supertrope it is. Calling.

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 9th 2021 at 11:24:53 AM

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 9th 2021 at 9:58:24 PM

I migrated the indexing, moved the page, and submitted a Locked Pages request for the discussion page to be moved (which I'm waiting for before posting a notice on the discussion page). We still need to update the description, but I already updated the Laconic (which was as simple as removing a part that says "An index about...").

Edit: Added to Administrivia.Renamed Tropes and the Renamed Tropes thread in the meantime.

Edit: Tweaked the description a bit to remove the index-specific text and make it more clear that it's a trope now, but I wouldn't be surprised if it needs more work.

Edit: Further sorted the indexing now that it's a supertrope and not just an index.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 9th 2021 at 12:16:00 PM

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Oct 14th 2021 at 8:26:35 PM

I think we're done, right?

Or do we do a wick migration?

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 14th 2021 at 9:04:32 PM

[up]Yes, wick cleanup needs to be done.

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Oct 15th 2021 at 5:10:21 AM

I thought we were leaving the wicks alone followingn the Distressed Damsel example?

Berrenta Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Winter is coming...
Oct 15th 2021 at 7:31:35 AM

Only focus on wicks pointing to specific tropes. Leave the rest alone unless it's a ZCE.

For the Mind Manipulation wicks, those can be moved accordingly.

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 15th 2021 at 9:32:40 AM

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 15th 2021 at 12:09:59 PM

I posted a notice on the discussion page (since I neglected to after it was moved to Mind Control several days ago).

As for wick cleanup, I didn't know there were any wicks to be left alone when writing my previous post.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 15th 2021 at 2:11:01 PM

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Oct 15th 2021 at 7:47:31 PM

MM has less than 1K wicks...

Compared to MC's 3K+...

And there was ~100+ duplication of entries last I checked.

The hard issue is figuring out what Sub-Trope to use for most examples? I think?

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2nd Oct '21 3:25:14 PM

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Mind Manipulation is currently and index, but it's often misused as a trope. In addition, its redirect, Mind Control, has significantly more wicks than the main name. What should be done with the page?

Options are not mutually exclusive.

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