Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?
: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
- Character pages for the Marvel Cinematic Universe have a dedicated thread here
.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here
is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes?
thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread
, as do the self-demonstrating character pages
.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on May 28th 2024 at 8:53:56 PM
Kung Fu Panda Lord Shen Was made just recently
I don't have the equipment though to tell if it was made prematurely though.
Edited by IkeaHan on Mar 24th 2023 at 1:19:34 AM
Character Specific Page cleanupI’ll do a quick clean up on Lord Shen - and yes, suggest this is merged back.
Edit - I've cleaned up the page. There were some indentation issues and contradictory entry writing that I've revised, as well as unnecessary 'aversions', which go against guidelines. Happy to merge this page back, if we're all agreed? (byte count is 36.7k)
Edited by lexii on Mar 25th 2023 at 12:11:49 PM
I've noticed there's some discrepancies between page names based on whether the work they're from is named after the character. It seems to either be...
[Title Character][The Character]
- Batman (The Character) | Bayonetta - Titular Character | Violet Evergarden (The Character) | Merlin (The Character)
or [Title Character][Title Character]
- Shrek - Shrek | SpongeBob SquarePants: SpongeBob SquarePants | Hades - Hades | Kirby - Kirby | Sonic the Hedgehog - Sonic the Hedgehog
Im wondering if it's worth standardizing how we name them. I personally find the latter category odd and redundant
Edited by IkeaHan on Mar 26th 2023 at 1:46:27 AM
Character Specific Page cleanup
Reminds me of how the titular character of BoBoiBoy used to have a page at Bo Boi Boy Bo Boi Boy Elements. I find the latter format that you've mentioned to be a bit redundant, and "Title Character" to be clearer.
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When you're alone I'm reaching out to let you know that you're far from strangers, like the saviorThe second format isn't actually [Title Character][Title Character], it's [Work Title][Character Name], same as any other character-specific page. So
should be understood as- Shrek (work): Shrek (character)
- Shrek (work): Puss in Boots (character)
The first part and the second part are referring to different things, even if they happen to be composed of the same string of letters.
This brings to mind this ATT discussion
about writing examples about title characters. Consensus agreed that combining the work title and character name in the example was bad form. The Batman (The Character) style looks to be another version of that.
The point is standard formatting just results in cases like these looking redundant
Character Specific Page cleanup"Looks redundant" doesn't mean "is redundant".
Bayonetta - Titular Character at least is better than Batman (The Character), because it's not treating the work name and the character name as the same.
Edited by Twiddler on Mar 26th 2023 at 2:25:36 AM
Yeah. This. I do prefer the Spider-Man: Peter Parker approach when practical, for that reason.
I guess it all depends on the work’s name. If it is named after the original protagonist, then the protagonist’s page should be “Titular Character”. But if the protagonist has an actual name, then we should use those instead (i.e. Batman - Bruce Wayne instead of Batman (The Character)).
I want to go to Tonio's.![]()
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I don't get how that contradicts anything I've said, but anyway...
Edited by IkeaHan on Mar 26th 2023 at 11:36:45 AM
Character Specific Page cleanupNew Sandbox:
God Of War Series Heimdall (~45k) from God of War Series – Norse Gods (160k)
Character Specific Page cleanupWondering if, on the Sandbox for CSP sandboxes, we should cut the pages that aren't even at 30K. The list is long, and these 5 pages haven't had a meaningful edit (meaning added content to the page, not just cleanup) in several months at the least, some haven't had any meaningful additions at all.
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- Chainsaw Man Aki Hayakawa (23K) (LME Jan. 13th, 2023)
- Daniel Craigs Bond (25K) (LME April 1st, 2022)
- Kingdom Hearts The Antipode Xemnas (21K) (LME Nov 21st, 2022)note
- Monster Hunter Deviljho (29K) (LME Jan 20th, 2023note ) note
- Resident Evil Claire Redfield (25K) (LME Jan 6th 2023note )
Alright I moved the current listed tropes on Skylanders Academy Spyro back to Spyro the Dragon (The Character) and applied for a cut on the former.
EDIT: The latter's blank despite when you go to edit, everything's still there? Sorted it.
Edited by WetFlannels on Mar 27th 2023 at 11:51:58 AM
What's wrong D-16? Rise up!![]()
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Yeah cut those pages.
Heimdall seems good but I am a bit concerned about the amount of pages that God of War has. I don't know why though.
Edited by Bullman on Mar 27th 2023 at 11:24:27 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadSo... what do you think we should do with the two Diane pages? (Which both happen to come from a 'B' title.) They both seem to be in good condition... unless you notice a flaw that I don't.
Diane N Looks like they could use a clean-up first. There are walls of text that could be condensed, and some contradictory entries — I don't know this series, but stuff like this seems a bit confusing:
Straw Feminist: Zig-zagged a bunch and often Played for Laughs, but ultimately a deconstruction... (etc).
Edited by lexii on Mar 29th 2023 at 4:57:02 PM
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The Bad Guys one at least seems good to go. If it meats the byte count.
Edited by Bullman on Mar 29th 2023 at 9:06:00 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread

Give Miranda her own page. 237k is more than big enough + trying to make edits in a 200k+ page tends to cause freezes in the midst of editing, making them harder to add, decrease or generally manage in the long run.
WHERE IS KRYPTO, I mean, WHERE IS THE DOG!!!