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Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.

The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.


This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:

  • Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
  • Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
  • Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
  • Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
  • Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
  • Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
  • Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.

Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.

If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.

Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.


We also have some more general threads for character page help -
  • Character Page Cleanup: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
  • Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
  • Character pages for the Marvel Cinematic Universe have a dedicated thread here.
If these issues are spotted for a CSP, they are on-topic here as well — but as they're not the focus of this thread, you might sometimes choose to raise them on one of the others instead.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
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There are several persistent issues with the quality of Character Specific Pages. Now that there are official requirements for creating new pages, this thread can be hub for cleaning up pages with issues or that don't qualify. The requirements settled on are as follows, and its recommended that a page meet two or more to stand on its own:

  1. Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
  2. The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
  3. A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note 
  4. The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
  5. A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.

Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.

Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.

If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on May 28th 2024 at 8:53:56 PM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#901: Jan 20th 2022 at 7:59:25 AM

Why should they be moved? I mean I don't know the series. So what is the other they included? Weapons, minor character, or so on?

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Libraryseraph uu~ from Canada (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
uu~
#902: Jan 20th 2022 at 8:06:13 AM

[up] Sorry, I just assumed people would check. Copying directly from the index, you can see they all directly admit to having an associated minor character or two:

For further elaboration: Suisei's includes her sister, Fubuki's includes her Split Personality and sister, the Haachama page is for two personas of the same individual (it's kind of ambiguous what's going on), Calliope's includes her mascot/mentor, and Gura's includes her pet and Evil Counterpart

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#903: Jan 20th 2022 at 8:21:32 AM

Okay. Yeah. Move those to with others sections.

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Libraryseraph uu~ from Canada (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
uu~
#904: Jan 20th 2022 at 8:22:29 AM

[up] On it

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spyland2 Since: Jun, 2021
#905: Jan 20th 2022 at 2:21:16 PM

I just created the Cobra Kai character pages

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#906: Jan 20th 2022 at 2:31:46 PM

Good job.

Hey didn't we decide to combine the Cobra Kai and Karate Kid character pages or something?

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Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#907: Jan 20th 2022 at 5:14:53 PM

I second this since it’s the same universe. But we should fold the images from Karate Kid in[up]

Edited by Furygildeman on Jan 20th 2022 at 5:15:35 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#908: Jan 21st 2022 at 2:50:14 PM

So I was checking to see if anymore DCEU pages could be made. And well there is Zod if we include Doomsday, which is his corpse, is 45,227 bytes, but DCEU: Kryptonian Invaders page would be only around 25,426 bytes without him (so not to bad) and DCEU: LexCorp, were Doomsday is, is already small as is. Only around 26,968 bytes. Maybe we could combine them into a Superman Enemies like we do for Wonder Woman's?

Edited by Bullman on Jan 21st 2022 at 10:57:07 AM

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CrimsonShark Punk Rocker from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#909: Jan 21st 2022 at 10:08:42 PM

[up] Seems like a good plan, so [tup].

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spyland2 Since: Jun, 2021
#910: Jan 22nd 2022 at 9:00:23 AM

Should Gabriel's, The Governor's, Michonne's, and Morgan's character pages be merged back to their general folders? It's from The Walking Dead (2010) and they all fall under the 40,000 byte guideline at 37,306, 37,887, 35,818 and 32,558 respectively. Thanks.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#911: Jan 22nd 2022 at 9:05:16 AM

We decided to keep those until that new season ends. Has it already?

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spyland2 Since: Jun, 2021
#912: Jan 22nd 2022 at 9:20:00 AM

Not yet, part 2 of the season should start airing late February.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#913: Jan 22nd 2022 at 10:26:33 AM

Then lets wait until then. Any opinions on my DCEU question?

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bwburke94 I am mad scientist! It's so cool! from 1.048596% (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
I am mad scientist! It's so cool!
#914: Jan 22nd 2022 at 8:23:52 PM

[up] They should probably be combined.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#915: Jan 23rd 2022 at 8:20:45 AM

Should it be called Superman's Enemies or Metropolis villains or something like that?

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EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#916: Jan 23rd 2022 at 8:21:46 AM

Superman Rogues.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#917: Jan 23rd 2022 at 8:31:07 AM

Superman Rogues works better. I will use that.

Edited by Bullman on Jan 23rd 2022 at 10:32:44 AM

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#918: Jan 23rd 2022 at 9:22:35 AM

And just like magic: DCEU Superman Rogues! Now to Zod.

Edited by Bullman on Jan 23rd 2022 at 2:20:13 PM

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#919: Jan 23rd 2022 at 10:00:24 AM

[up]Shouldn't it of been Superman's Rogues Gallery for synergy with DCEU: Wonder Woman's Rogues Gallery?
[down]Edit: Ok I moved it over to DCEU: Superman's Rogues Gallery, although I do have a small nitpick with it being Wonder Woman(s) and Superman(s), but I'm not sure if it's enough to change.

Edited by GateStarX on Jan 23rd 2022 at 11:59:32 AM

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#920: Jan 23rd 2022 at 10:38:33 AM

The name was suggested above but going for consistency is probably better. I could go either way but I am a bit busy to change it right now.

Edited by Bullman on Jan 23rd 2022 at 12:42:12 PM

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#921: Jan 23rd 2022 at 12:20:58 PM

[up][up] Cool thanks.

So moving this here. Sandbox.DCEU General Zod is 45,294 bytes and without him the new og page would be 36,334 so I feel that is close enough to justify being okay to split. Or I could just cut the sandbox Thoughts?

Edited by Bullman on Jan 23rd 2022 at 2:22:27 PM

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DoctorSleep Since: Nov, 2013
#922: Jan 23rd 2022 at 5:25:39 PM

The DCEU Birds Of Prey page has been up for two years now and only has 34,035 bytes on it, so I'm thinking it should be moved into the DCEU Gotham Viglantes page, which has only 5,759 bytes right now, but will inevitably get bigger since Batgirl's film is set to come out this year.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#923: Jan 23rd 2022 at 5:48:49 PM

[up] I mean sure.

Any opinion on Zod?

Edited by Bullman on Jan 23rd 2022 at 7:49:44 AM

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DoctorSleep Since: Nov, 2013
#924: Jan 23rd 2022 at 9:16:30 PM

[up]We could probably give Zod his own page since The Flash movie should add some more to his page once it comes out

CrimsonShark Punk Rocker from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#925: Jan 23rd 2022 at 10:06:31 PM

[up][up] Zod can have his own page, whether if Doomsday is is isn't accounted for.

On another note, Zod'd profile can be bulked up to 40,000 bytes and above in three ways; 1) find tropes that mention and/or put an emphasis on Zod in the work page of Man of Steel, 2) take some tropes that are already listed in the Kryptonian Invaders section of Superman Rogues and add them to Zod's, though they should be reworded to better fit into his profile, and 3) rewrite already listed paragraphs in Zod's profile to make them bigger and put more emphasis on the tropes that he showcases.

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