Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:22:03 AM
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Byte count isn't everything. He can stay where he is.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
I now that. We have plenty who meet it who don't have a page and ones who don't but due. I just brought it here because of it's byte count. I personally don't think it's necessary because the OG page is not that big with out him.
Edited by Bullman on Oct 2nd 2021 at 2:17:26 PM
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I've been looking at the character page for Code Geass, specifically that for the main characters and I've noticed that Suzaku's folder had 47,733 bytes. Do you think we can create a character page for him? Thanks.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
How big would the page be without him?
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With Suzaku on the main character page, the page is currently at 138,585 bytes. If Suzaku were given his own page, the rest of the main character page would be at 88,855 bytes.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Then sure go ahead and make a page.
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Just created a character page for Suzaku.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Speaking of Final Fantasy. Lightning from XIII is big enough at 44,863 bytes and the OG would still be over 80,000 bytes.
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ワンダー・オブ・U
Should Saitama get his own page? It's almost 84,000 bytes
Over 900 years, he shall recover his heartbeat. Over 90 years, he shall recover his intellect. Over 9 years, he shall recover his power.
The Moron
Normally I'd say yes, but right now he's pretty much the entire page anyway, so there's really no reason for it
Manga Brainrot 🦋
I'd actually be fine with Saitama getting his own page considering how big his folder is. You can just circumvent that by moving Genos to One-Punch Man: S-Class Heroes
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Any opinions on my question here?
ワンダー・オブ・U
I'll separate Lightning into her own page when I have the time.
Over 900 years, he shall recover his heartbeat. Over 90 years, he shall recover his intellect. Over 9 years, he shall recover his power.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Okay. Cool. Also I would be okay with Saitama getting a page.
Edited by Bullman on Oct 9th 2021 at 3:37:09 AM
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ワンダー・オブ・U
1. In regards to Saitama getting his own page, wouldn't that mean we'd have to delete the whole Main Characters page or rename it entirely?
2. Should Danzo get his own page? His folder has about 52,500-ish bytes.
Over 900 years, he shall recover his heartbeat. Over 90 years, he shall recover his intellect. Over 9 years, he shall recover his power.
The Draftsman of Doom
Characters.James Bond Christoph Waltzs Blofeld may become a lot smaller, and may necessitate re-merging if you remove all the misuse and obsolete tropes from the pages.
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Sounds reasonable.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 11th 2021 at 10:35:21 AM
Rawr.
I'll try to cut some misuse and see if that's true at the end. In the meantime, I have another issue with the Bond pages. Most or all of a few of the work pages for the films are just links to other pages hidden in folders. I clicked a folder in Characters.No Time To Die expecting to read a character entry, saw nothing, clicked the next one saw nothing, and found that only two or three significant characters actually had entries on the page. Is it kosher if I just cut the folders and just list the names of characters on other pages at the top of each sub-section?
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Yeah that sounds reasonable to me.
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The Draftsman of Doom
I also Created Sandbox.Daniel Craigs Bond, in case we need to expand that.
Rawr.
ワンダー・オブ・U
So I checked the Persona 5 character sheet and I noticed most of them (the entirety of the Phantom Thieves and the last three-four entries of the Endgame Antagonists) are about around 45,000-70,000-ish bytes but I think it'd be a bit too overkill to separate the Phantom Thieves into their own pages. The only section I could probably understand that would need their own pages would be the three main antagonists (Samael, Yaldabaoth and Maruki) and Kasumi.
Edited by RinneSharinganCatalyst on Oct 14th 2021 at 12:54:32 PM
Over 900 years, he shall recover his heartbeat. Over 90 years, he shall recover his intellect. Over 9 years, he shall recover his power.
Godzilla
When in comes to The Flash, should tropes pertaining to Supergirl be added to the "Kara Zor-El" section of DCEU: Krypton?
SKREEEEEEEONK!
I don't know if I'm doing this right, but I checked the Deltarune Ralsei page and it's 24,547 bytes. That means it has to be cut, right?
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Yep. It's not big enough to justify being a page. It needs to be 40,000 bytes or more.
Edited by Bullman on Oct 17th 2021 at 3:50:22 AM
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I’ll put it back into Characters.Deltarune The Three Heroes. Deltarune: Kris also exists now. Is it big enough?
Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Oct 17th 2021 at 5:02:50 AM
Okay Star Trek stuff is taken care of. I was thinking should we make a Mister Burns page. He's technically big enough at 40,435 bytes, but it might not be fully necessary.
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