Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?
: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
- Character pages for the Marvel Cinematic Universe have a dedicated thread here
.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here
is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes?
thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread
, as do the self-demonstrating character pages
.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on May 28th 2024 at 8:53:56 PM
Whose post was thumped?
To move away from Spider-Man for a second, I made Sandbox.Arcane Vi and she is 41,239 bytes. Without her the OG Arcane: Main Characters page would still be 81,728 bytes. Thoughts? Am I good to launch or is it not worth splitting just yet?
Edited by Bullman on Jun 24th 2023 at 9:43:13 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadHey just saw the message. Sorry, meant to post a message here before I made the page but I forgot to. I did mean to say how the byte went up from the last time it was discussed (over 40,000). But thanks for letting me know about the unauthorization, wasn’t aware we actually had to comment here first
I'm fine with Vi being split off there Bull.
Can we possibly continue discussion on this about Ghostface
?
It sort of fizzled a few weeks back.
What's wrong D-16? Rise up!
Oh okay.
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Sure. I'm still not sure if they would be too confusing or not.
Why isn't Sheev Palpatine's page at the page that uses his name, as opposed to his title?
I’m currently working on a X Men Genosha page. It would include novice the Genegineer and many characters from Genosha Military and Government as well as Mutants from the Excalibur run who don’t have folders yet. Also Genegineer is very misrepresented in his folder as a sympathetic figure when he has never been such so so cleanup is required on that
Are any of them immediately likely to be big enough to justify their own page?
If not, it's probably more of a question for the other Character page cleanup
thread, especially if this will be moving any existing character sheets between pages.
League Of Legends Fiddlesticks
Im trying to reconcile this character having two folders split across different retcons and continuities.
Character Specific Page cleanupIt's for characters that get completely reworked in League (VGUs). It results in all the tropes for their lore and gameplay being split apart
Edited by IkeaHan on Jun 26th 2023 at 4:13:49 AM
Character Specific Page cleanupIn that case I am unsure what to do as I have never handled something like that before
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadSomeone just made a ton of pages for Total Drama characters. I don't recall any discussion or notice about those. Do any of them even seem cleaned up?
Character Specific Page cleanupI also see someone made a page for Breaking Bad: Hector Salamanca. I don't have time to check it right now - does it meet the requirements?
I had a sandbox for Hector set up to clean his folder. But it seemed like somebody launched it on their own without any consultation first.
Character Specific Page cleanupOkay, I'm pinging ~impracticaltroper because I see they completely reorganized the Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul pages entirely. All due respect but you've been told not to unilaterally move things before, so why did you do it again?

Understood, thanks for the heads up