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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 7th 2021 at 12:52:35 AM

I'll just go ahead and post a request since that thread can sometimes get more attention than hollers.

Thud!!
WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Oct 7th 2021 at 12:53:14 AM

Yeah, go ahead. I hollered last night, and, well, clearly it got overlooked.

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 7th 2021 at 12:55:12 AM

Request posted. I asked for the discussion page to be moved as well.

Thud!!
WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 9th 2021 at 2:33:16 AM

[up]I migrated the indexing, moved the examples, and updated the indexing. (I still disagree with the No Recent Examples, Please! indexing, but I couldn't remove that without consensus.) The examples might need to be cleaned up (I don't currently feel like going through them myself).

Edit: And I posted a notice on the discussion page, since the discussion page was already moved when the sandbox was put in place.

Edit: Added to Administrivia.Renamed Tropes and the Renamed Tropes thread because I forgot about that when posting the discussion page notice.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 9th 2021 at 7:56:30 AM

Thud!!
WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Oct 9th 2021 at 10:30:18 AM

I think we maybe have consensus for it? Everyone here at least seems to agree with removing the time limit. At worst we just need a new crowner.

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WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Oct 14th 2021 at 3:24:50 PM

...And a crowner I shall make, I guess.

Here.

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SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Oct 19th 2021 at 3:44:35 AM

Swapped.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 23rd 2021 at 10:59:05 PM

It's been five days and it's unanimous. Is it safe to call, or do we need more votes?

Thud!!
Berrenta MOD Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Winter is coming...
Oct 24th 2021 at 8:36:25 AM

We're good to remove from NREP.

TRS needs your help!
Berrenta Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Winter is coming...
Oct 24th 2021 at 2:42:46 PM

Since that's done now, we still have wicks to move.

984 to be exact.

TRS needs your help!
WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Oct 27th 2021 at 9:42:57 PM

I've cleaned out a little over 50 wicks so far today and so far I think I've found... one or two actual examples. Everything else is either "time exists" or "Values Dissonance on the main page".

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WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Nov 28th 2021 at 10:23:59 AM

Alright, now that Not So Different is done, this is my next project. Did some last night; as before, 90% of the wicks just needed to be tossed into the incinerator, so this one should at least be quick...

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WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Nov 29th 2021 at 10:10:54 PM

412, Film/ and Playing With/ done along with other smaller sections.

Wick Check Project - Troper Wall - Currently working on: Wake Up, Go to School, Save the World
Nov 30th 2021 at 9:38:40 AM

I am seeing examples deleted that could easily be moved to Values Dissonance, the page that seems to act as a catch-all YMMV trope for things modern audiences find irritating about older works.

Example (removed from Frankenstein (1931)):

Nov 30th 2021 at 9:40:03 AM

Or is someone collecting these examples to build a new page? After all, the wick check found that almost half the examples are of this kind.

Orbiting Relationship Status: I've got a total eclipse of the heart
Nov 30th 2021 at 9:47:28 AM

This is from Venus Prime; I'm not sure if it counts as Future Society, Present Values, because the page doesn't actually say that it takes place in the future, just that it's a sci-fi story and seems to imply that it is.

  • Society Marches On: Back in the eighties, when Preuss began working on the series, being outed as gay or lesbian could ruin your career, and this is used as unspoken leverage by Sparta to get Sondra Sylvester to cooperate with the investigation into the Star Queen sabotage, and eventually leads to Sylvester snapping and killing Vincent Darlington. While there are still places in the modern world where gays and lesbians are forced to stay in the closet, it's hard to believe that the North Continental Treaty Alliance, which includes several countries that now have marriage equality, would be one of those places.

WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Nov 30th 2021 at 10:46:26 AM

[up][up] I'll be completely honest; the reason I haven't moved a bunch of them to Values Dissonance is because some of them I'm not positive actually would belong there (a majority of the examples are just "time happened since the work was made and this arbitrary thing changed"). None of the examples are being "collected" either. If the examples fit better as Values Dissonance, okay, cool, but I'm not sure random dialogue does (and that example is presumptuous anyway as not everyone would dump someone over that...) and a lot of the examples I cut don't belong anywhere.

If there's examples you think should be moved, cool, but please stop coming to these threads for the sole purpose of whining that I didn't delete or move certain things. I'm the literal only person working on this, or at least I was at the time of doing this last night; I'm going to make mistakes at times.

Edit: Look, I don't want to be rude. You're right that I should probably be moving things more and I'll try and do that going forward. But I just feel like you're targeting me and my edits specifically every time, and in doing 100+ wicks every single night, things are going to slip through the cracks. I'm not perfect and if I interpret an example differently than you do, then I won't take the exact same action you'd expect me to.

[up] I don't know... I'd personally delete it to err on the side of caution, just me though.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 30th 2021 at 2:09:29 PM

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WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Dec 1st 2021 at 1:37:44 PM

Hey, was this trope ever Trivia? Because a majority of the Trivia wicks so far are misplaced examples, and I was wondering if there was any reason for that beyond people just not paying attention.

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Tabs from now on
Dec 1st 2021 at 2:12:08 PM

It "felt" correct to the editor, maybe? A lot of Fan Nickname instances are on YMMV despite it being trivia mumble mumble.

wingedcatgirl Bearer of a liberated Butterfly from The Murder-Free Hotel
Bearer of a liberated Butterfly
Dec 1st 2021 at 2:41:05 PM

A lot of Dummied Out examples were put under Trivia for similar reasons, back before it was changed to actually be Trivia. Actually Fan Nickname in YMMV looks like it's soon to meet the same fate —

In the flesh. Except not, because we're actually talking to you through a magical butterfly. | Trouble Cube
WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Dec 1st 2021 at 10:55:57 PM

Anywhoodle, the wicks are done. There's only 2 left, one being the Newsletter and the other being a locked sandbox even the locked pages thread tells me I should just ignore... so I'll do that.

Hollering.

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GastonRabbit MOD A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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18th Jul '21 2:28:00 PM

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