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Some pages on Logical Fallacies are not thriving, yet are not marked as Definition-Only Pages. Apparently they were unilateraly split in 2010. Please, give feedback.
Maybe we could make it for other not-thriving pages on Logical Fallacies to officially ask if people want them all to be def-only and speed up the process (similar to the Wiki Tropes thread), I'll check for them if people agree.
Edited by Piterpicher on Jul 8th 2021 at 5:41:24 PM
Seconding Definition only and pitching other such pages that can be considered as such here. That should lighten the load.
I'm also open to a Logical Fallacies thread.
Instead of making it definition only, I suggest we add it to the glossary on Logical Fallacies and cut the individual page altogether. I'd also suggest that for other pages.
Good point. Changing my vote to the above.
I still support a Logical Fallacies thread BTW.
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jul 5th 2021 at 11:44:14 AM
I'm voting for making this definition-only.
I third Mew's idea. I don't see much point in a definition only page for...this.
Alright, as my proposal seemed to have approval, I checked other Logical Fallacies that are on Pages Needing Wicks but not on Definition-Only Pages (also my thoughts, I avoided cutting and assume def-only in worst case scenarios, but if people want to cut and merge with the index I guess they can):
Edited by Piterpicher on Jul 5th 2021 at 8:33:51 PM
I don't mind the idea of making all of the Logical Fallacies pages definition-only, but I might have to think about it a bit more before making a definitive decision.
At the very least, I already agree with making Ad Hoc definition-only.
Edit: And yeah, a sandbox would probably be the best way to handle the Logical Fallacies pages. I think I may have seen Logical Fallacies itself listed on Tropes Needing TRS, but I could be misremembering.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 5th 2021 at 3:31:57 AM
You are not misremembering:
I'm not against the batch idea, but don't we need a thread for it? I don't know if we can just convert this one into a batch thread.
The thread that expanded Author's Saving Throw's definition was originally just for video game subpages, but eventually gained mod approval to be about the concept as a whole. Maybe we could ask a mod whether this thread can be converted into a general Logical Fallacies thread.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 5th 2021 at 8:55:03 AM
A Logical Fallacy thread should be created.
Edited by Nen_desharu on Jul 5th 2021 at 12:03:33 PM
I hollered post 10 to see what the mods think about using this thread for other Logical Fallacies. I specifically hollered that post because it has a list of fallacies whose pages aren't thriving.
Edit: Also, I noticed that Just World Fallacy is a redirect to the main Logical Fallacies page instead of having a separate page, but I don't know if there was a TRS thread for that.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 5th 2021 at 12:02:14 PM
I don't mind making Logical Fallacies UN page either. I don't see the point of splitting the different fallacies to be definition-only. At that rate, just add them to the main LF page, cuz they'll probably be short anyway.
I can see expanding the scope of this thread. I think a merge crowner or so would be warranted, since this problem dates back to 2010 when someone unilaterally split Logical Fallacies. The problem would be if the discussion gets bogged down into a debate on each individual page.
Personally my opinion on every page will be the exact same, so I won't have much to debate about.
I tried to have different votes as I did find some on-page examples interesting and could see why someone wanted to expand the pages to explain them more throughly, though that is my opinion. Still, I guess we have approval to make this a general not-thriving Logical Fallacies thread.
Edited by Piterpicher on Jul 6th 2021 at 10:24:52 AM
Adjusted title to reflect making it a thread for Logical Fallacies in general.
Edited by Berrenta on Jul 7th 2021 at 8:55:13 AM
I thought Logical Fallacies was supposed to be an index for logical fallacies, not a trope. Don't indexes get a pass for low wick counts? Even if they don't, Logical Fallacies has 422 wicks anyway.
It's about the subtropes on Logical Fallacies that are not thriving and not listed on Definition-Only Pages. You can see them in my post above. Oh, and thx Berrenta for the thread name change.
Edited by Piterpicher on Jul 7th 2021 at 8:02:33 PM
What was the original thread name?
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