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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#201: Oct 5th 2022 at 5:58:08 PM

[up]That implication flew completely over my dead. So it turns the pregnant sixteen-year-old had sex with another teenager instead of an adult... who himself conceived a child with an adult woman at the age of 12.

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#202: Oct 5th 2022 at 7:19:17 PM

[up]Well, the first part was already implied when that strange girl tells Ruby that Goro's/Ai's killer was with a middle-schooler at the time of the incident. But the second part... yeah, that's an icky revelation. I'm assuming this is going to be important plot point, and not just a case of Writers Cannot Do Math.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#203: Oct 5th 2022 at 8:27:42 PM

that strange girl tells Ruby that Goro's/Ai's killer was with a middle-schooler at the time of the incident
There were honestly countless other possibilities for that, like "what if the killer was not their dad", which was asked just last chapter.

I'm assuming this is going to be important plot point, and not just a case of Writers Cannot Do Math.
There's no way this was an accident.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#204: Oct 6th 2022 at 6:17:22 AM

Possibilities are that either Mystery Dad's own father was the one who fathered Himekawa, making him Aqua's uncle, and the DNA test fumbled (long shot, but I heard it as a conjecture), or that Himekawa's mom raped Mystery Dad when he was a preteen and fathered Himekawa by him. No wonder her husband ended up pulling a murder suicide, sheesh. And Akane, girl, what did we say about OD'ing on death flags?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Cross (Don’t ask)
#205: Oct 6th 2022 at 6:35:35 AM

Mystery Dad being the rapist isn’t a possibility?

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#206: Oct 6th 2022 at 8:21:54 AM

If an 11-year-old kid and a grown woman have sex, it's not the child who's doing the raping.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#207: Oct 6th 2022 at 11:13:06 AM

I should not have to explain how that's possible, even if it's unlikely.

Writing-wise, it wouldn't be that surprising, but it would be pretty tasteless.

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#208: Oct 6th 2022 at 7:14:13 PM

[up][up]Enfant Terrible is a thing, so that could be a direction they'd take with this revelation.

That being said, it seems more likely that this would be used to give Mystery Dad some sort of Freudian Excuse (if he is the mastermind behind Goro and Ai's deaths) rather than to prove that he's pure evil who can manipulate and take advantage of adult women at the age of 11.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#209: Oct 6th 2022 at 9:18:48 PM

This is the same character who was all of fifteen when he likely manipulated a grown man into a targeted Murder-Suicide. Doing nefarious things at a young age seems well within his capabilities.

Although him (probably consensually) fathering another child at fifteen is suggestive of Promiscuity After Rape. Especially when you remember Melt's flashback to also losing his virginity at the age of twelve, describing his ~14 partner as having "taken advantage of" him.


Today I learned that, while the digital release in Japan is a week behind the print, the English release is simultaneous with the latter. This kind of makes English readers "ahead" of Japanese ones, who seem to more often make posts (especially ones including panels) after the Jump+ release.

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#210: Oct 8th 2022 at 8:34:49 AM

[up]Well, if the age at which he presumably fathered Himekawa was a deliberate choice and not a mathematical mistake, then I figured the parallel with Melt's backstory is also deliberate.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#211: Oct 12th 2022 at 8:13:50 AM

New chapter.

Better start praying for Akane.

Edited by Cross on Oct 12th 2022 at 11:15:01 AM

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#212: Oct 12th 2022 at 8:19:37 AM

It’s almost comical how quickly the death flag worked.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#213: Oct 12th 2022 at 11:27:31 AM

[up]×4

Do we know he manipulated the murder suicide?

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#214: Oct 12th 2022 at 5:35:13 PM

The anime starts in 2023 with a 90-minute premier. Pretty obvious that they're gonna try to get most of the prologue in there.


I seriously think Akane dying here would be a bad writing decision. What, Aqua needs more to be angry and vengeful over?

I like this series, but I can't say the Myth Arc has been well-executed. 11 volumes in, we got like three beats advancing the primary mystery as it became absurdly tangential. Then it was abruptly answered by a secondary character almost the instant she tried. Now it looks set to send Aqua practically back to square one anyway.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#215: Oct 12th 2022 at 5:43:10 PM

Akane doesn’t need to die for that to happen. Aqua just finding out the possibility of her getting hurt in connection to something regarding his father would be enough to send him spiraling more.

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#216: Oct 12th 2022 at 5:57:35 PM

Although if Akane doesn't die, she can just tell everything she found about Hikaru to Aqua, and I think that isn't really a good narrative development either. Unless she loses her memory or something.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#217: Oct 12th 2022 at 6:21:52 PM

Akane already decided she wouldn't tell Aqua. Her keeping it a secret and looking for her own way to handle Hikaru as Aqua keeps looking separately could be interesting.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#218: Oct 12th 2022 at 6:47:29 PM

I think we’re gonna go the soap opera route and put Akane in a coma.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#219: Oct 13th 2022 at 6:55:05 PM

I guess the "death flag overflow speedrun glitchless" strat isn't working out for her.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#220: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:17:59 AM

Chapter 98 is out. Akane almost got into accident, but she’s alive. However, Aqua is back on the Vengeance Express and he’s not letting Akane go down to hell with him.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#221: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:44:00 AM

At least she’s in the clear now. But damn, girl was ready to shank the SOB.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#222: Oct 19th 2022 at 8:46:39 AM

Bit of a sudden turnaround, but I'm not complaining. Just about the best direction their characters could have taken, I feel. Aqua's back on the revenge train without needing to add an Akane fridging to it, she gets dumped for her own good but is heartbroken that she couldn't save him from his self-destructive spiral. In a way, each of them was looking to spare the other that burden. Too bad it didn't pan out and now both twins are on the path to ruin.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#223: Oct 19th 2022 at 9:33:43 AM

That said, Akane could still try and do something dangerous.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#224: Oct 19th 2022 at 6:35:18 PM

So where does Aqua go from here? Go back to building his career or take the A-train to Shanktown.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#225: Oct 19th 2022 at 6:40:31 PM

Think we still have some stops before reaching Shanktown.


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