Getting confused by the rules about pages for tropers who also create things...

I asked a couple years back about the possibility of having a creator page of some kind despite also having an account here, and the response I got seemed kind of contradictory. It is allowed...but only if I'm sufficiently well-known? And YouTube channels are normally banned from having pages, but popular creators like Roahm Mythril and Pink Kitty Rose get them for the same reason? What about blogs? I notice that one other blog page that I put on here, Codiekitty's, ended up getting cut, so I'm assuming that popularity level applies there as well? Doesn't that contradict There Is No Such Thing as Notability? What if somebody else made a creator page for me? What about citing my videos and such on other pages even if I don't have a full page?

Edited by TheMartianGeek1 on Jun 20th 2021 at 3:07:10 AM

What content do you make? The question here is if it’s actually tropeable or not.

Mainly Let's Plays, sometimes music arrangements and other video game-related discussions (see here).

Well?

The Auto-Erotic Troping policy prohibits making articles for your own work for the sole or primary purpose of self-promotion. It also says that simply making videos and posting them on YouTube doesn't qualify you for a wiki article. It's not a notability issue, it's a tropability issue. There must be sufficient original creative content to provide a minimum number of trope examples, and those examples should be narrative in nature, not merely technical. Using a Description Cut once isn't enough to call your work tropable.

Most Let's Plays are not tropable works, just as most vlogs and reaction videos are not tropable works. (I have watched plenty of all of these, so I know what I'm talking about.) You must add something to the experience that goes beyond making faces at or talking to a camera. This could involve using it as a medium to create your own original content (songs come to mind), inventing characters and storylines that are not present in the original works, writing and/or acting in skits, adopting a "stage persona", and so on.

Put simply, there must be a fictional or narrative component to your work that goes beyond the thing you are playing or reacting to. Otherwise the article will become all about you, and that's explicitly forbidden. (Memes and in-jokes that arise from your work don't count unless they grow beyond your fandom and into wider culture.)

Edited by Fighteer on Jun 27th 2021 at 7:09:08 AM

So conversational troping, context tropes, and personality-related stuff don't count? Dang. I assume that you also can't reference your own stuff on quote pages either, then.

Though as far as Let's Play tropability goes, there are plenty of other Let's Players that have mentions and even pages on here, many of which I've never heard of. What's different there?

Let's Play as a tropeworthy concept by itself is in contention here.

Revisiting this thread. Creator.Dark Flame Wolf (spotted while looking at the stub for their unreleased VideoGame.Amulet Of Fate project, which has now been cut) has these two tropes:

• American Kirby Is Hardcore: Seemingly influenced by westernized gritty remakes or revampings of classic series, Darkflamewolf has turned several fan works of theirs into dark versions of their former franchise canon selves — to the point it seems to be Darkflamewolf's stamp of influence on anything they do.
  • The most notable examples being Zelda's Honor and Lost Isle, which includes gore, rape and such.
  • Not to say Final Fantasy VIII was aimed at younger kids per sey, but their new fanfic involving this game universe seems to be on the extreme end of the rating scale.
  • And now their Zootopia fanfic of Death Becomes You is looking to be heading the same dark path. The first chapter alone starts off with a brutal boxing match with Judy pitted against a polar bear. A rape crime scene and violent interludes of torture. We haven't even begun chapter 2 yet!
• Nintendo Hard: Most Let's Players and reviewers have commented on how difficult most of Darkflamewolf's games are and tend to agree with the assessment that they can be quite brutal to the uninitiated. Those who are more familiar with their previous works can usually expect a good challenge.

Both seem to have been added by troper DarkFlameWolf - are they sufficiently subjective that they go against Creator Page Guidelines? My initial thought is that they probably are.

Subjectivity aside, the first is misuse and the second ZCE.