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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#501: Feb 4th 2024 at 8:31:54 PM

Looking at some of the mon designs over the years, I have to say that if this were actually true, Game Freak's design philosophy would be rather looser than what you're implying.

Might want to read this 2017 Game Informer interview with Junichi Masuda where he says the same thing.

Edited by tclittle on Feb 4th 2024 at 10:32:54 AM

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SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#502: Feb 5th 2024 at 7:17:44 AM

@ ironcommando:

The base building could definitely use an improvement too. Placing roofs or stairwells is a huge pain in the ass because of how janky the system is or the pieces virtually never snap together. Or how you can't place things if your Pal has been summoned (or another Pal is passing through) and is obstructing the build site... which is rather frequent.

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#503: Feb 5th 2024 at 3:31:52 PM

[up][up]Then I'm afraid he's given his company too much credit at times.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#504: Feb 6th 2024 at 2:35:21 PM

[up] You do know that Masuda is one of the co-founders of Game Freak and knows enough about his company's culture in his time there.

(Japanese) During their earnings call Q&A, Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa said they will "take appropriate action against those who infringe on our intellectual property rights" when asked about Palworld.

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#505: Feb 6th 2024 at 8:37:48 PM

Honestly, if it does come down to Nintendo/TPC taking legal action, it would probably be an out-of-court settlement rather than a full-blown court case. Pocketpair agrees to redesign a handful of Pals, gives TPC a bit of cash, and the two part ways. Neither would want a dragged out court battle: Pocketpair for the risk that the fees would bankrupt them even if they win, and Nintendo/TPC on the off-chance that if they lose, they've opened the floodgates for them (and other JP entertainment companies) to deal with even more situations like Palworld.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#506: Feb 6th 2024 at 9:52:58 PM

I'd need someone with a better understanding of Japanese Corporate Culture to confirm this, and this might just be wishful thinking on my part. But:

That sentence strikes me as a strategically worded "politician speak" sentence. Vaguely:

  • He wants to assure investors and whatnot that Nintendo is not going soft on protecting its I Ps, whether he intends to sue Palworld or not.

  • He doesn't specifically make a call to action or even definitively say he thinks they're infringing on Nintendo's copyrights.

So instead he says that I think means: "Yes, I know about Palworld. Hypothetically if we find that they're infringing on us, we'll act"

But I could also be completely misreading it.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#507: Feb 6th 2024 at 11:05:37 PM

No, that's the correct reading. It's a nothing of a statement designed to make shareholders feel better. It wouldn't even be Nintendo acting in the unlikely event of legal action

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#508: Feb 9th 2024 at 6:25:37 AM

Is Palworld actually worth playing? I've heard a lot about it and kinda thought it was overrated. I'd like to try it but I don't know whether or not to.

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shadowblack Since: Jun, 2010
#509: Feb 9th 2024 at 6:56:18 AM

That is not a question we can answer, as we don't know what you would consider "worth playing".

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#510: Feb 9th 2024 at 7:02:48 AM

I mean as in is it a fun game to you guys.

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#511: Feb 9th 2024 at 8:55:39 AM

I have 75 hours on the game and nowhere near bored with it, so make of that what you will. I'm certainly enjoying it a lot, especially since they've fixed the bug for the capture rates.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#512: Feb 9th 2024 at 10:21:11 AM

@derpdart56

Is Palworld actually worth playing? I've heard a lot about it and kinda thought it was overrated. I'd like to try it but I don't know whether or not to.

The short answer is "yes", if you like Pokemon and Action-y Survival Games. It has a satisfying gameplay loop and I find it a good game to boot up to play in little chunks when I get bored.

Some general thoughts on it:

  • The game is nowhere near as edgy or black comedy-driven as it's sometimes made out to be. You can be cruel to your Pals theoretically, but being kind to them feels perfectly natural. In fact, the game is actually pretty wholesome if you're being nice to your Pals.

  • Though, on the flipside, it's also very difficult to get firearms in this game for your character to use. This is a disappointment to me, "Pals with guns" was a selling point and bows and crossbows don't have quite the same charm to me.
    • My frustration is compounded by the fact that guns are clearly not rare In-Universe. Early game enemies carry firearms (which you can't pick up, sadly), and you get to craft guns for your Pals long before you get to use them.
    • Does it matter mechanically? I'd say it does a bit, since using a crossbow as your only ranged weapon doesn't provide as many options. In fairness, there are elemental ammo variants I didn't really experiment with, so perhaps that's my fault.

  • Nitpicks aside, combat is fun regardless. Fighting alongside your Pals is a fun dynamic-you're not fully in control of your Pals (they do moves autonomously) but taking advantage of the situations they create in combat is pretty interesting.
    • I will, however, note that it is very different from Pokemon's turn-based combat. It's nowhere near as tactical/strategic, so if you're into the tactical depth of Pokemon (such as its competitive scene) then this game won't scratch that specific itch.

  • Pal designs vary but are mostly good. They are very much Kirkland-brand Pokemon, but they're good Kirkland Pokemon. The best of them look like they're made with the same "kit" as Pokemon while still being distinct. That is to say, they look like they could be new Pokemon designs, and good ones at that.
    • One of my favorites is Kelpsea, I think. It looks like a Gen I-style Pokemon that simply never got made, vaguely like a cross between Dratini and Lapras. Dinossum is also pretty good, so is Vanwyrm.
    • My current team consists of: Vanwyrm, Digtoise, Relaxasaurus, Broncherry, and Univolt

  • Aesthetically, the game I'd criticize this game for emulating is BOTW, actually. A lot of the UI and sound design emulates it. I think the Pokemon aesthetic works, but I'm less fond of the BOTW aesthetic here.

  • On a sidenote, the clothing your character wears looks oddly primitive. Indeed, you start the game in a literal loincloth. I feel like there needs to be a clothing design for "modern outfit" somewhere. Really, more clothing designs in general would be nice, but to be fair this is probably an early access thing.

  • Expect a lot of base-building and crafting in this game. Luckily, doing so with your Pals is mostly fun, but it should be noted it is a fairly significant chunk of the game.

  • The biggest objective problem the game has in its current form is a lack of quests or general narrative beyond logs you can find. This does matter for me, because it results in a lack of strong incentive to progress the game further. Of course, this is probably an early access thing.

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doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#513: Feb 9th 2024 at 12:22:20 PM

[up] Guns aren't that hard to get. I barely used the crossbow and jumped right to the pistol.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#514: Feb 9th 2024 at 12:44:46 PM

[up]Hm, did you craft it yourself or find it some other way? You have to be level 25 to create the makeshift handgun IIRC.

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doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#515: Feb 9th 2024 at 12:48:31 PM

[up] Leveled so fast I barely used the crossbow. But you also don't have to be the right level. I found a pump action shotgun schematic before I could even make the double barrel or craft ammo and swapped to that recently when I went to a area that was too high a level for me.

MisterZygarde64 Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth from New Mobotropolis, Mushroom Kingdom Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#516: Feb 11th 2024 at 9:20:19 PM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/loyalpals.png How would any of you react if this were to occur? I.e. The Loyal Three and Pecharunt becoming guest characters for a Nintendo port of Palworld

Let me get this out of the way. I know this would never occur. You don't need to tell me. This is just a fun hypothetical

[down] No it's fake.

Edited by MisterZygarde64 on Feb 11th 2024 at 7:28:03 AM

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#518: Feb 12th 2024 at 12:11:47 AM

For my part, I'd be mildly disappointed it wasn't a more...classic Pokemon.

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ironcommando smol aberration from Somewhere in space Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#519: Feb 12th 2024 at 8:36:03 PM

[up][up][up]Grass/Dark not!Okidogi, Water/Dark not!Munkidori, Fire/Dark not!Fezandipiti, and Dark not!Pecharunt for Pals.

This is actually less silly than one would think, because it would give us nocturnal watering and planting Pals.

Edited by ironcommando on Feb 13th 2024 at 12:36:21 AM

...eheh
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#520: Feb 13th 2024 at 6:52:02 AM

So, this games allows you to capture humans, and outfit with them guns, and it has mod support. I fear, but am morbidly curious, to see how this will be abused.

Edited by Mullon on Feb 13th 2024 at 9:52:17 AM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#521: Feb 13th 2024 at 12:15:07 PM

Honest Trailer for Palworld or as they call it in the Trailer: Jess Bezos Simulator.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 13th 2024 at 12:15:31 PM

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#522: Feb 14th 2024 at 3:45:33 AM

So would anyone recommend this game? Is it fun to play?

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doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#523: Feb 14th 2024 at 4:57:04 AM

[up] Ever play Ark? Its basically a better version of that imo.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#524: Feb 14th 2024 at 10:06:14 AM

[up][up]I did write a quick review of the game if you scroll up a bit.

Short answer is "yes", the game is pretty good if you like Pokemon and survival-themed games. I also find it to be a good game that's easy to pick up and put down.

In its current state, the biggest flaw IMO is that I think the game could use more in-game narrative and quests.

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terumokou Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object from In a bamboo forest full of bunnies, California Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
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#525: Feb 14th 2024 at 12:28:47 PM

Game is pretty jank. But like fun jank.

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