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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#1: May 31st 2021 at 5:34:50 PM

After I made an Image Pickin' thread for this page, it got me thinking how poorly this trope is doing. Not only is its wick count rather low (at around 40 wicks), looking at some of the examples raised concerns of both misuse and complaining. Sure enough, when themayorofsimpleton and I made a wick check for this trope, it revealed the following:

Out of 44 wicks:

  • 6 are correctly used
  • 9 are misuse
  • 10 are complaining
  • 5 are zero-context examples or otherwise unclear
  • 8 are other things such as index placement or parodies

Stray observations:

  • The trope's name refers to the Pennyfarthing bicycle, which isn't actually an example because the "easier solution" was impossible at the time due to the fact that the bicycle chain wasn't invented yet. 3 of the wicks used the trope as a pothole for "character uses Pennyfarthing bicycle".
  • The redirect Obvious In Hindsight sounds a lot like Captain Obvious Reveal + one of the hindsight tropes, with some of its wicks using it to refer to plot twists that received Foreshadowing. It should probably get cut due to being a poor name.
  • A lot of examples of this trope are things that can't be wicked due to not being works, such as video game hardware or mechanics, the printing press, or some car models.

Overall, the trope would be better off either cut or restarted from scratch at the Trope Launch Pad under a new, more indicative name.

I'd like to apologize for all this.
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#2: May 31st 2021 at 5:53:54 PM

Opened.

Perhaps TLP/yard + trivia? Renaming is also okay; probably Overly Complex Design?

Edited by Berrenta on May 31st 2021 at 7:55:49 AM

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#3: May 31st 2021 at 6:04:48 PM

TLP/yard. Maybe there we can figure out how to reduce/eliminate the complaining, perhaps by reworking the definition.

I like the rename option too, though the suggested one may be too vague for the current definition.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on May 31st 2021 at 9:05:29 AM

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#4: May 31st 2021 at 6:18:21 PM

I'm good to yard this with a different name. Maybe TLP if we can find a sponsor.

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#5: May 31st 2021 at 8:55:55 PM

Yard this trope. Ironically, the image was the image chosen in Trope Report's Image Of The Month.

Edited by callmeamuffin on Jun 1st 2021 at 4:36:04 AM

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#6: May 31st 2021 at 9:08:31 PM

[up] It's an excellent image. I'm glad it's being preserved somewhere.

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#8: Jun 2nd 2021 at 1:37:34 PM

Regarding the image...yeah, I'm glad it's saved somewhere accessible. [lol] It's a very solid pick.

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#10: Jun 2nd 2021 at 2:05:15 PM

And the old bicycle isn't even an example.

FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#11: Jun 2nd 2021 at 5:49:25 PM

Right now we're only two days in, but consensus seems to currently be on yarding/TLP, maybe along with a rename. I'll start a crowner once we have enough discussion.

I'd like to apologize for all this.
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#12: Jun 3rd 2021 at 4:53:56 AM

Normally I'm in favor of renaming tropes that lack wicks due to obscure names, but since this is heavily misused in addition to lacking wicks, I'd rather Yard this instead of just renaming it (or we could send it to TLP if someone steps up to sponsor it).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 3rd 2021 at 6:54:44 AM

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#13: Jun 5th 2021 at 5:18:38 PM

It's been more than three days, and discussion seems to agree on yarding. Do I make an options crowner, due to there not probably being enough votes?

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#14: Jun 5th 2021 at 5:31:37 PM

[up] I'd be alright with a crowner.

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#17: Jun 5th 2021 at 7:13:02 PM

[up] I guess we should just holler to hook then. I will if you haven't.

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#19: Jun 5th 2021 at 9:46:10 PM

Crowner hooked

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#20: Jun 6th 2021 at 5:49:33 PM

Seems like we have a clear winner already, but three day rule and all that.

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#21: Jun 9th 2021 at 5:57:59 AM

I believe that's enough consensus and the crowner can be called. I'll be here to help with the cleanup later today.

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#22: Jun 9th 2021 at 6:20:58 AM

Calling for "send to Yard/TLP" and "get a new name while you're there".

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#23: Jun 9th 2021 at 11:55:37 AM

I cut all the wicks that weren't useful for yarding, including those in indexes. I also sent Obvious In Hindsight to the cut list due to not having any correct wicks.

Should I cut all general or non-work examples from the trope's page and wicks?

Finally, I need help discussing the examples labeled as "complaining", to see if they can be salvaged.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Jun 9th 2021 at 4:04:56 PM

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#24: Jun 9th 2021 at 12:58:40 PM

At best this seems like it should be YMMV and at worst completely cut due to being complaining.

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#25: Jun 9th 2021 at 1:45:04 PM

[up] Crowner decided on the later... kinda. It can be restarted at the TLP if anyone's willing to sponsor it.

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5th Jun '21 6:40:57 PM

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