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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#351: Aug 29th 2022 at 2:43:21 PM

Other services pull content from their libraries too. It's a part of the business.

Real good argument against capitalism there.

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Aug 29th 2022 at 5:43:55 AM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#352: Aug 29th 2022 at 2:49:51 PM

[up] Usually, things are pulled from platforms is because of licensing agreements running out or something like that, and not to deliberately make their library of content smaller in the name of tax write offs.

Edited by megaeliz on Aug 30th 2022 at 10:49:36 AM

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#353: Aug 29th 2022 at 2:51:06 PM

God, that entire article was such obvious sockpuppetry. Whoever wrote that has Zaslav's hand positioned right up their ass.

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#354: Aug 29th 2022 at 2:56:18 PM

I mean CNN is owned by Discovery....

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#357: Aug 29th 2022 at 3:31:15 PM

God, you know things are bad for your studio when people are legitimately going, "Yeah, I'd rather work for Amy Pascal and Tom Rothman".

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#358: Aug 29th 2022 at 3:37:24 PM

when you burn brides people would rather take the long way around and work for the competition

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#359: Aug 29th 2022 at 3:43:19 PM

So, Disney, Netflix, Amazon, Paramount... They'll all start rolling in the dough that WBD just basically dropped in their laps. Has anyone ever self-sabotaged this badly?

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#360: Aug 29th 2022 at 3:46:35 PM

Hell a bunch of studios are already going all in to get the streaming rights for the new Batman cartoon

Like you know you fucked up bad when you miss out on Batman

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#361: Aug 29th 2022 at 4:02:50 PM

I mean that's what they want, right? They claim that Batman won't make money on their service and their hoping to make a shit-load licensing it out. The bidding war between streamers is probably music to Zaslav's ears, he's probably rubbing his hands thinking they'll sell it off at a fortune.

A lot of these moves make sense when you realize that Zaslav isn't trying to salvage HBO Max and is in fact preparing to sunset it for this new combo service that in practice is just going to be Discovery+ with some HBO stuff. You'd think it'd be smart to have something big like the Batman cartoon on this new service anyway to entice people to subscribe but that assumes he cares about actually cultivating a proper streaming service. Which he doesn't, because he's a Two Decades Behind reality TV exec, which means streaming is little more than glorified VOD generating passive income while he chases more traditional forms of profit.

Edited by Watchtower on Aug 29th 2022 at 7:11:51 AM

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#362: Aug 29th 2022 at 5:25:32 PM

…Wait a minute, isn’t Dune (2021) (part 1 and the upcoming part 2) also on HBO Max?

Zaslav wouldn’t dare to also can that one, would he? I, uh, would save the movie’s progress on a separate hard drive if I was Villeneuve, just in case. >.>

Edited by Lyendith on Aug 29th 2022 at 2:39:14 PM

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#363: Aug 29th 2022 at 5:43:35 PM

Dune Part 2 isn't going to be a Max original, so it's probably fine. The problem here is that Zaslav doesn't get streaming in particular and refuses to believe that it is, inevitably, the future of content distribution.

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#364: Aug 29th 2022 at 7:23:51 PM

He's a theater guy over streaming.

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#365: Aug 30th 2022 at 12:02:08 AM

Imagine being Sony through this

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#366: Aug 30th 2022 at 12:05:40 AM

What does Sony have to do with this?

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#367: Aug 30th 2022 at 5:21:11 AM

Zaslav can't pull Dune off HBO Max. Warner Bros is the distributor, not the production company. It's part of why Apple+ has the Monsterverse TV show instead of HBO Max, because Warner Bros doesn't actually own the property, they just have a distribution deal with Legendary.

There was also that whole kerfuffle where WB seriously ticked Legendary off by trying to not do a theatre run for Godzilla vs Kong and had to make a bunch of concessions for future movies to allow for HBO Max runs. Pretty good chance that WB isn't allowed to take any Legendary productions down without their express permission, or there's a significant financial penalty.

And yeah, stuff disappearing off streaming services happens all the time. Stuff getting pulled to deliberately make the library smaller? That's entirely unprecedented and goes directly against how streaming service subscriber retention works. Former examples are invariably due to rights issues.

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#369: Aug 30th 2022 at 11:14:59 AM

@Arthur

It was just discussed a few posts above, how Legendary Entertainment is looking to work with other companies including Sony as a result of Warner's...decisions

Imagine being the joke of the business for years and then suddenly you are the preferable option

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#370: Aug 30th 2022 at 11:59:26 AM

Sony's only "the joke" to people who are terminally online and make memes out of movies they dont like.

In reality, Sony owns one of the big five movie studios and has vast holdings in tv as well, like Crunchyroll, among other things. They're a largely successful company in basically any way that is measured.

Its something people forget when they whine about Sony owning the Spider-Man rights.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#371: Aug 30th 2022 at 12:04:22 PM

Sony's big issue is that they keep faceplanting with the big blockbusters. Jumanji and the MCU Spider-Man movies are their only genuine recurring hits, everything else either gets lukewarm responses or absolute bafflement from audiences.

Their smaller movies do fine and like [up] said, they have vast holdings in TV. Because Sony doesn't have their own streaming service, they produce TV for everyone else. Especially Amazon and Apple. An enormous number of the big TV hits for the past decade and a half, plus...about 80% of the major sitcoms everyone remembers from the past, were Sony or made by companies Sony bought.

Like, Sony makes Wheel of Time for Amazon. Amazon gets to bear the burden of the price of that and Sony gets the pay for the actual production, making a profit that way, regardless of how well it does streaming. It's where a huge amount of their money comes from.

Edited by Zendervai on Aug 30th 2022 at 3:07:25 PM

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#372: Aug 30th 2022 at 12:07:06 PM

Sony is still a giant, but they have been struggling tremendously for the past decade and this is not a secret to anybody. The reason the MCU Spider-Man movies exist to begin with is Sony taking a pragmatic approach in that visible struggle to keep up with the other film giants by joining forces with the biggest game in town.

[up] in essence.

Edited by Gaon on Aug 30th 2022 at 12:09:21 PM

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#373: Aug 30th 2022 at 12:11:28 PM

@Arthur

Can you....not be as aggressive? No offence but you can be a little rude when making your points and insult other tropers on here. You have accused people of 'whining' twice now.

[up] Sums the situation up well.

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#374: Aug 30th 2022 at 12:43:55 PM

You said something that was false, so I pointed out how it was incorrect, calmly. Not sure how that was aggressive or rude.

And i didnt really accuse anyone of anything. There's a general trend on the internet, here and elsewhere, to complain about Sony owning the rights to Spider-Man. It would be silly to pretend that there isn't (recently people complained that Sony wouldnt let Spider-Man be in She Hulk, though there's no evidence it was a unilateral decision by Sony). I wasnt trying to call you or anyone else out in particular, that's why I didn't name anyone specifically.

If you felt personally insulted, then I apologize.

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#375: Aug 30th 2022 at 2:07:26 PM

... who the heck goes and says Batman wont make you money?

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