Huh, that was harsher than I expected.
I'd usually suggest waiting more than three days for a big trope like this, especially with the backlash we've gotten for lesser cuts, but it's rare we even get 60+ votes on a crowner at all. Any more opinions than this will likely be half-hearted anyway.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.Well, it's time to kiss this trope goodbye and have it enjoy its new, retired life as a redirect.
It's better this way.
Au revoir.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."Yeah, I didn't oppose waiting like was stated before, but I also don't think it's realistic to get more votes in or that waiting longer would've had any actual impact. Maybe people would've voted on the newest suggestion more, but, it's moot anyway.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallWhen we do wick cleaning, we could probably preserve any examples we're familiar with by moving them to either Aesop (or its subtropes, especially Accidental Aesop for those probable shoehorns) or Anvilicious if we know it's a really unsubtle message.
Edited by mightymewtron on Jun 17th 2021 at 2:23:44 PM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.So long SANTBD. Good fucking riddance.
I definitely agree that the trope subpages should be saved in the Internet Archive. In fact, I did that years ago with Deader Than Disco (before I actually posted in cleanup threads.) This would at least leave a memory of the pages for those who want it.
EDIT: I have redacted a portion of my response, as apparently a mod took issue with Imperial Majesty XO suggesting it in the Edit Banned thread.
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jun 18th 2021 at 9:15:54 AM
Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI turned Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped's redirects (which only have wicks of their own on YMMV Redirects) into redirects to Anvilicious.
Also, do we need both SugarWiki.Anvils That Needed To Be Dropped and Main.Anvils That Needed To Be Dropped, since cutting one of them would mean the auto-disambig system would direct links to the other?
Edit: Also, I cutlisted SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.Film since it's a redirect to Anvilicious (originally Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped before I changed it) and not an actual film subpage.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 18th 2021 at 9:54:30 AM
I got a rock for Halloween.I suspect a good deal of them will be cut or commented out as ZCE, though, as most of the SANTBD examples just list the messages without explaining how heavy-handed they are.
Don't we have a cleanup for Anvilicious? I think we have one for SANTBD too but we could always use that for Anvilicious instead. Or even make a short-term project to figure out where examples should be moved and whether the ZCE count.
On that note, remember not to cutlist the subpages without deciding if the contents should be moved first! I don't want another GCPTR snafu.
Edited by mightymewtron on Jun 18th 2021 at 11:41:11 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.Yeah, we can't merge everything. Gushy ZCE will be burned.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallEr... I already said SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.Film was a redirect to the main Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped page and not a subpage. There were no examples to move.
Edit: For clarity, here's what I said about the matter in my previous post with the most relevant parts bolded:
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 18th 2021 at 11:22:55 AM
I got a rock for Halloween.Sorry for the double post, but it looks like its examples were removed by AHI-3000 (who made a lot of other unilateral changes recently) with no explanation and turned into a redirect. I posted a talk page request to decline the cut.
Edit: And I posted about it in the moderation discussion thread
just to be safe.
Edit: It looks like they moved the examples to SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.Animated Films and SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.Live Action Films, presumably unilaterally (I don't think an edit summary was given in the history for SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.Film).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 18th 2021 at 11:37:08 AM
I got a rock for Halloween.I'll admit that I'm not entirely sure what the criteria are for it, but since we've agreed to merge SANTBD into Anvilicious, and SANTBD has become the ROCEJ nightmare that it has, should it also be added to the Permanent Red Link Club?
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If we did not agree to redirect I would say yes, but since we agreed to redirect I would say no.
Adding it to the PRLC is out of the question, since we voted to redirect to Anvilicious. Members of the PRLC aren't allowed to exist in any form, regardless of whether they're redirects or full-fledged pages.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 18th 2021 at 8:15:14 AM
I got a rock for Halloween.We could lock SANTBD if we want it to just stay a redirect, but I don't know if that's really necessary.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.![]()
What if it becomes a problem? As in, if people try to recreate the original page?
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jun 18th 2021 at 9:43:26 AM
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What would be the best way to fix the page?

You are indeed being an obstruction. Why did you wait until after it's called?
No matter. ~Imperial Majesty XO, you earned yourself a suspension from TRS.