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#76: Jul 2nd 2021 at 7:40:45 AM

[up]Yeah, T rating exists separately for a reason.

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#77: Jul 2nd 2021 at 12:16:29 PM

The ESRB Mature rating refers to 17+.

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#78: Jul 3rd 2021 at 7:11:48 PM

[up]Fun fact: a few Canadian provinces (including Manitoba and Ontario) made the ESRB ratings legally binding.

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#79: Jul 3rd 2021 at 11:57:32 PM

[up]That's at least sometimes true in the US for M-rated games, but not T or lower. I had to show my driver's license in Indiananote  after I turned 17, though I'm not sure if that was a state law or a GameStop store policy. (This was in 2006 or 2007; I usually buy games online or digitally these days.)

Edit: According to Wikipedia, such laws were declared unconstitutional by the US Surpreme Court in 2011, so I guess they're no longer legally binding in the US.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 4th 2021 at 2:10:52 PM

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#80: Jul 5th 2021 at 8:38:27 PM

[up]When the ESRB is rating upcoming popular games, representatives from the provinces where the ESRB is legally binding may help with the rating process for those games.

The reason why the only jurisdictions in the world where the ESRB is legally binding are some Canadian provinces is that the First Amendment doesn't apply to Canada and the responsibility of classifying media by age appropriateness in Canada belongs to the provinces (and they use the ESRB ratings for video games).

Edited by Nen_desharu on Jul 5th 2021 at 11:51:26 AM

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#81: Jul 27th 2021 at 9:58:52 AM

I noticed this thread was still open, and after looking back a page, Everyone Rating and Teen Rating are both duplicates of each other, and they're inaccurate because they contain ratings that belong under Mature Rating.

Edit: That's fixed, at the cost of the pages only referencing the ESRB. I'm fine with turning these into definition-only pages instead of disambiguation pages; Sandbox.Everyone Rating and Sandbox.Mature Rating exist already, but there is no Sandbox.Teen Rating.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 27th 2021 at 12:11:19 PM

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#82: Jul 27th 2021 at 10:09:56 AM

Eh? That's, like, completely wrong.

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#83: Jul 27th 2021 at 10:11:47 AM

[up]It's wrong now, because I fixed them after I posted my previous post. I edited my previous post to note the corrections.

Both formerly contained this text, which was put there by you:

The term "mature rating" can refer to:
  • Australian Classification Board's M rating, recommended for mature audiences 15 years and older.
  • New Zealand's Office Of Film And Literature Classification's M rating, recommended for mature audiences 16 years and older.

Edit: Everyone Rating's history, Teen Rating's history.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 27th 2021 at 12:20:29 PM

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#84: Aug 12th 2021 at 3:52:59 PM

This came up on Ask the Tropers: can I change Everyone Rating and Teen Rating back into redirects to Entertainment Software Ratings Board? A disambiguation is pointless if there's only one entry.

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#85: Aug 12th 2021 at 3:55:35 PM

Was it going to disambiguate between different ratings that are similar to the ESRB's E and T ratings?

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#86: Aug 12th 2021 at 4:30:51 PM

I'd be fine with redirecting Everyone Rating and Teen Rating. I was hoping there would be further edits to add more ratings after I removed the Mature Ratings that were originally listed there, because I couldn't think of any to add (and still can't).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 12th 2021 at 6:32:41 AM

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#87: Aug 12th 2021 at 9:39:08 PM

I changed those back into redirects to the ESRB page since there's no other ratings with those names.

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#88: Aug 14th 2021 at 5:55:34 AM

Is there even anything left to do in this thread?

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#89: Aug 14th 2021 at 6:00:03 AM

I have finished making Mature Rating’s Definition-Only Page at Sandbox.Mature Rating. Anything I should change before it gets swapped in?

Also, we have to clean out the wicks for Mature Rating.

Edited by callmeamuffin on Aug 14th 2021 at 11:00:15 PM

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#90: Aug 14th 2021 at 6:18:06 AM
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#91: Aug 14th 2021 at 6:33:20 AM

[up]I'm pretty sure it is. Either way, I dewicked everything except for that one; the only remaining wicks are on sandboxes, as well as Ambiguity Index for Mature Rating.

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#92: Aug 14th 2021 at 9:33:01 AM

Sandbox.Mature Rating is fine but I think that Definition-Only Pages is a better place than Ambiguity Index since we are defining a term, not merely directing people elsewhere.

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#93: Aug 14th 2021 at 9:44:48 AM

[up]I moved it from Ambiguity Index to Definition-Only Pages. I'll defer to the sandbox's editors regarding what to do with the sandbox's contents.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 14th 2021 at 11:45:23 AM

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#95: Sep 11th 2021 at 2:09:29 PM

So I swap it in, and put the sandbox on the cutlist?

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#96: Sep 11th 2021 at 2:12:14 PM

[up]That's what needs to be done if it's ready to be put in place.

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#97: Sep 11th 2021 at 2:42:27 PM

Well it is.

Edit: Done

Edited by callmeamuffin on Sep 11th 2021 at 7:46:22 PM

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#98: Sep 11th 2021 at 3:23:12 PM

Is there anything left to do?

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#99: Sep 12th 2021 at 2:08:04 AM

Actually, we need to get Adults Only Rating sorted out.

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#100: Sep 12th 2021 at 4:58:24 AM

[up] Move to Useful Notes. I genuinely think the AO rating is worth having one over, because it's such an uncommon rating that when a game gets one, it's very notable. For example, when Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas got one after the Hot Coffee nightmare, it became a news story.

It might also be worth mentioning the rules about selling AO-rated games in stores, since many stores (including I'm pretty sure all the major retailers) do not sell them at all.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Sep 12th 2021 at 8:16:28 AM

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