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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#226: Mar 20th 2021 at 4:34:02 PM

Comic Drake recently covered the pinball history of John Walker, who has a on-going run at the moment. note 

It didn't occur to me that he was named (twice) after two brands of whiskey.

Along with awkwardly being a part of the Canadian superhero team Alpha Flight as U.S.Agent.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Mar 20th 2021 at 11:50:05 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#227: Mar 20th 2021 at 4:49:01 PM

I recall he once beat two dudes responsible for the death of his parents half to death.

Like, he shit stomped them quite thoroughly, and then left them both chained to a burning oil tanker (or something with oil in it) and with a brief window to unchain themselves....that they failed to meet.

Walker's run as Cap was messed up.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#228: Mar 20th 2021 at 5:07:06 PM

There's also the possibility that the guy they gave the shield to is a Flag-Smasher and will make use of it to commit crimes or something.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#229: Mar 20th 2021 at 5:10:42 PM

Oh. Combining Flag Smasher and Walker into one character huh?

That's something I didn't consider.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#230: Mar 20th 2021 at 6:26:02 PM

Well, that video just educated me that "Buck" is a slur and US Agent had a black sidekick called Bucky until they learned otherwise

And I can't wait for US Agent as Cap to get a sidekick and suggests he be called "Bucky" until someone whispers quickly in his ears.

Edited by God_of_Awesome on Mar 20th 2021 at 6:26:21 AM

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#231: Mar 20th 2021 at 7:02:04 PM

..."Buck" is a slur? This is the first time I've heard of that. I'll have to give the video a watch later.

That aside...do we think this'll be one season like Wandavision or do we expect multiple seasons? I guess it depends on how the rest of phase four plays out but I'm thinking that if Sam takes up the title of Captain America and not just the roll that at the very least the show'll be renamed from season two onwards.

eagleoftheninth Shop all day, greed is free from a dreamed portrait, imperfect Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#232: Mar 20th 2021 at 7:09:10 PM

The word "buck" refers to male horned animals like moose and deer (and in a farming context, uncastrated rams) and carries the connotation of the sexual aggression of those same animals in mating season. In the US, the word's use as a slur comes from the racist stereotype of Black men being sex-crazed and predatory.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#233: Mar 20th 2021 at 7:17:11 PM

Really it doesn't make sense to keep using the name Bucky.

Like its not a codename or anything, its just a nickname based on a shortened form of Bucky's middle name Buchanan.

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#235: Mar 20th 2021 at 7:28:51 PM

All indications are this will be a single season mini-series like Wandavision and, presumambly, Loki and Hawkeye.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#236: Mar 20th 2021 at 7:30:42 PM

It's a good model. Self-contained stories that they don't need to waste with movies while still getting some of the less-major characters some time in the spotlight.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#237: Mar 20th 2021 at 8:11:14 PM

It's also Disney and Marvel Studios actively flexing how much control they have of the D+ platform. They aren't falling into the Netflix MCU trap of trying to forcibly create standard seasons of standard syndicated TV shows and are instead treating them like mini-series TV specials, which takes better advantage of the streaming platform.

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#238: Mar 20th 2021 at 8:31:51 PM

..."Buck" is a slur? This is the first time I've heard of that.

If you’ve seen Get Out that’s why there’s a recurring motif of dead deer. “Buck” and “doe” were used by slavers as a means of humanizing slaves as merely livestock instead of people.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#239: Mar 20th 2021 at 8:52:14 PM

It's where the "buck" in "strapping young bucks" comes from.

Someone mentioned a while back that this series might be where they throw all the unused ideas they had in the bank after replacing the third Cap film with Civil War, and William Burnside (and the Serpent Society) was explicitly namedropped as one of them. I suspect Walker will just be The Dragon and a pawn in the grand scheme of things, though they might forcibly turn him into a more Burnside-like figure.

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#240: Mar 20th 2021 at 9:09:36 PM

If I remember correctly, the third film without Civil War was going to involve civilians being mind-controlled as mooks and Cap being reluctant to harm them?

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#241: Mar 20th 2021 at 9:12:22 PM

Yes, that would have been an adaptation of the Mad Bomb storyline.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#242: Mar 20th 2021 at 9:31:52 PM

Been browsing others' reviews of the episode and this one brings up the line about Bucky seeing "tiger photos" on dating apps. So it's not just me who found the line eyebrow-raising and Ambiguously Bi (that or he's running into furries).

[up] Given that fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Flag Smashers pulled something like that with a knockoff serum that gave people superpowers at the expense of their mental faculties.

Edited by AlleyOop on Mar 20th 2021 at 12:35:54 PM

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#243: Mar 20th 2021 at 10:15:07 PM

If they actually are intending this to be a hint that Bucky is bi - and if so they have to come out down the line and put something on film to show it - if they do that I will stan this until the day I die.

Being able to say that perhaps my favorite character in the MCU represents me on some level, that would mean the world to me.

Edited by TheAirman on Mar 20th 2021 at 12:19:55 PM

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#244: Mar 20th 2021 at 10:30:11 PM

Being able to say that perhaps my favorite character in the MCU represents me on some level

What, you've never been a brainwashed super-soldier acting on behalf of Nazi sleeper cell? You need to get around the block more man!

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#245: Mar 20th 2021 at 10:49:55 PM

Comic Drake recently covered the pinball history of John Walker, who has a on-going run at the moment.

It's a miniseries actually.

There's also the possibility that the guy they gave the shield to is a Flag-Smasher and will make use of it to commit crimes or something.

That would be quite the departure, since normally Flag Masher's views are pretty opposite to Walker's. I'm guessing one would be just an act in this scenario? Still i don't see why people think he'll be composite with anyone.

Edited by Cortez on Mar 21st 2021 at 3:28:21 PM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#246: Mar 20th 2021 at 10:51:12 PM

[up] Was that originally the case? I could have been sworn it was an ongoing.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#247: Mar 20th 2021 at 10:54:29 PM

They promoted it as a mini, yeah.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#248: Mar 21st 2021 at 12:38:11 AM

Further, if Sam's arc is supposed to be about his reluctance to accept Steve's legacy, then it's not good enough for him to overcome the reluctance and take up the shield in the last five minutes or so. If the show ends with Sam receiving the shield, then that would just be a recursive development; that's the same place he was at when the show began.

Sam doesn't necessarily have to be a fully realized Captain America by the end of the series, but audiences will want to see him accepting and using the shield in the climactic finale. If Sam ends the show having never once thrown the shield into a bad guy's face, it'll be a huge disappointment.

Yeah, they don't want to do a Rey and pull a "this is the story of how the character came into their own, which will happen five minutes before the final credits roll" bit.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 21st 2021 at 12:38:21 PM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#249: Mar 21st 2021 at 12:58:56 AM

Weren't there already scenes in a trailer of him practicing with the shield?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#250: Mar 21st 2021 at 12:59:52 AM

Yeah, it was mentioned last page.


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