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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#251: May 25th 2021 at 2:08:54 PM

Keep in mind that in writer-talk “make it more real” is less likely to mean “more realistic” as it is to mean “make the characters feel real: ie, talk/act like actual people” a which, given how bland and pop culture referency the dialogue is now, makes sense.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#252: May 25th 2021 at 2:09:36 PM

I heard the pilot script was leaked on Twitter before being taken down, is there an archive somewhere so that I can read it in its entirety?

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#253: May 25th 2021 at 2:10:58 PM

For your enjoyment

the leaked powerpiff girls script.

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#254: May 25th 2021 at 2:17:06 PM

That's only a few pages, I saw people were sharing other pages but I can't find anywhere with the whole script

edit: wait here it is https://www.reddit.com/r/powerpuffgirls/comments/nkisfz/cws_powerpuff_full_script_of_the_rejected_pilot/

Edited by Xopher001 on May 25th 2021 at 2:18:18 AM

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#255: May 25th 2021 at 2:45:23 PM

Minor note, but the “move on dot org” joke was reused from Jennifer's Body, written by Diablo Cody who also wrote for this show, Because everyone really wanted to hear that joke again 12 years later.

NotGrantMorrison Since: Jul, 2014
#256: May 25th 2021 at 3:08:44 PM

I literally posted it last page.

https://lilfile.com/jbOKeG

The moveon.org joke probably was a chosen homage given Jenifer's Body is getting a newfound cult following these days. The type of thing designed for those crappy listicles on websites 6 REFERENCES YOU MISSED IN POWERPUFF'S PILOT and all that stuff.

Edited by NotGrantMorrison on May 25th 2021 at 3:10:14 AM

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#257: May 25th 2021 at 3:21:48 PM

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XvH1cA_9TpFfiTKNMlEe248r42CiY76I/view Here's a Google doc link.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on May 25th 2021 at 6:26:02 AM

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#258: May 25th 2021 at 3:33:22 PM

Do we have reason to believe this leak is real?

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#259: May 25th 2021 at 3:37:12 PM

The most compelling evidence is the seemingly Revealing Cover-Up of tweets that posted the script are being taken down for copyright.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jul 21st 2021 at 4:21:57 AM

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#260: May 25th 2021 at 3:50:16 PM

[up][up]Their taking it down for copyright reasons. They wouldn't do that if it was fake ?

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#261: May 25th 2021 at 3:51:29 PM

[up]The takedown notice specifically says they’re removing an unaired pilot as well.

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#262: May 25th 2021 at 3:59:05 PM

wild mass guessleaked on purpose to gauge audience reaction for course correctionwild mass guess

Chaosjunction Since: Feb, 2010
#263: May 25th 2021 at 4:34:14 PM

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Possible, but I doubt it. They have better ways to gauge audience reaction. Remember, the people who snark on this stuff on Twitter isn't the intended audience. They would do more targeted research.

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#264: May 25th 2021 at 4:48:52 PM

The leak came a few hours after it was reported the CW was reworking the pilot, so I doubt the leadership intended it but they’ve definitely noticed the reactions by now.

DeanCole Since: Jun, 2015
#265: May 25th 2021 at 5:16:46 PM

I'm more worried about the possibly that they needed a online backlash to find out that this isnt what people want for PPG.

Edited by DeanCole on May 25th 2021 at 5:17:30 AM

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#266: May 25th 2021 at 5:32:34 PM

Yeah, looking through the "rumored-but-likely-real" pilot script, part of me wonders if they looked at the backlash to the 2016 series and took all the wrong lessons from it, as going from a more sanitized and "kiddie" reboot/sequel/cashgrab to a more edgy and "adult" reboot/sequel/cashgrab makes me feel they thought the reasons it failed was due to the demographics or medium instead of the reboot's actual issues

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Neveratall Since: Apr, 2016
#267: May 25th 2021 at 7:19:04 PM

I'm not opposed to the idea of a darker and more mature take on the powerpuff girls. But the leaked stuff sounds trashy and mean-spirited.

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#268: May 25th 2021 at 8:12:54 PM

[up]That’s definitely the most noticeable trait of the pilot. Regardless of your opinion on Diablo Cody, reading this seems to resonate a clear contempt for the original cartoon and a relishing to take shots at it.

Chaosjunction Since: Feb, 2010
#269: May 25th 2021 at 9:05:13 PM

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It's weird because apart from that, the plot beats weren't actually completely horrible, even though they weren't inspired either. It's like Fant4stic, where they're trying to trash the original for some reason.

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#270: May 25th 2021 at 9:33:41 PM

The better way to do an adult retelling is one that still appeals to the original fanbase despite the heavier themes. I recall reading how Hillary Duff wanted to do a more mature sequel series to Lizzie McGuire. It was canned because Disney objected to having plots that involved sex and cheating, but Duff made it clear her intention was to have the protagonist, once aimed at preteen viewers and facing the obstacles of that age, now be grown up like the original audience and undergoing the same challenges of adulthood as them. This reboot could've aimed for that, but instead it openly disses the cartoon and roots its own script's sex jokes in shock humor rather than anything relatable.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on May 25th 2021 at 9:42:21 AM

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#271: May 25th 2021 at 9:46:26 PM

The base premise for this was bad to begin with so I'm not surprised the pilot was bad. Good acting and respect to the source despite the premise could have salvaged it but apparently not.

Personally if it were up to me I'd have gone with a lighter tone. Like they can question whether or not their childhood was messed up or not but I'd still embrace the original. Like them resenting their childhood doesn't fit with what the original showed us but that would've been one way to make the premise work. Pity that's not what they seem to want to do.

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#272: May 26th 2021 at 1:22:42 AM

[up]I second that. If they want a "dark" tone, they should aim for Doom Patrol and Umbrella Academy. For a lighter tone, I would look to Legends of Tomorrow.

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#273: May 26th 2021 at 3:29:45 AM

Honestly the biggest clear error is killing off Mojo Jojo; him doing grim dark dialogue but in his redundant speech pattern would have me watching every week.

"I've walked in shadow my entire life... which is to say my particular existence is one defined with a lack of brightness as my time on this Earth is one filled with darkness and not light. For if you were to say that I, Mojo Jojo, am the individual who has experienced just the shade and who has not felt luminescence, you would be correct, because I Mojo Jojo, am the person that has only known blackness as opposed to glow for the period in which I have been alive."

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#274: May 26th 2021 at 4:02:04 AM

Hes probably not really dead. Well probably get a reveal showing he survived.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#275: May 26th 2021 at 4:03:05 AM

I’m not sure what they can do with a second draft so long as the burning contempt for the source material is still there. If anything, to reduce the “campy” nature, I see Cody making the tone darker and more oppressive while keeping the plot beats about the Professor being a terrible person and the girls resenting him. If she’s already coming into this from a place of hating the source material for whatever reason, being too saccharine in her POV, not reflecting her values, then how will the second draft be any better?


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