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#176: Aug 19th 2021 at 5:21:18 PM

Btw the Ymmv page has a weird part under Unexpected Character

"While Rowlet and Cyndaquil are the most popular starters of their respective regions, Oshawott is the least popular of the Unova starters (at least in its first stage)."

Uh...is this true. I thought polls put him higher then the other two.

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#177: Aug 19th 2021 at 5:24:07 PM

[up]I always saw Snivy getting the most praise back then, but I couldn't say how Tepig and Oshawott ranked against each other.

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#178: Aug 19th 2021 at 5:31:42 PM

It's hard to say anything definitive about popularity because it's hard to gauge. But I did once do a bunch of looking into how much fan art each starter gets, and Emboar was one of the lowest in that regard (along with Chestnaught and Torterra). Samurott didn't seem to be much higher with Western fan art, but was pretty high with Japanese fan art.

Even outside that, my general impression is that Samurott and its pre-evos are pretty popular in Japan, and the Samurott hate over it being so different from it's pre-evos seems to be mostly just a thing in the Western fanbase.

I think Snivy/Seperior are definitely one of the more popular starters though, more so than a lot of people would think.

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#179: Aug 19th 2021 at 6:40:09 PM

I always thought it was Snivy > Oshawatt > Tepig.

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#180: Aug 19th 2021 at 6:50:58 PM

Suddenly feels like getting a Tepig when he finally plays the Gen V games.

Sounds like the pig needs some love. It's not his fault he's the third Fire-Fighting Starter....and whatever else is wrong with him.

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#181: Aug 19th 2021 at 6:59:41 PM

The Tepig line got insane hate for being firefighters.

But if they were going to aim for popular but less-represented Pokemon and gens, then:

Gen 1 is out, is already in everything and gets all of the attention in every possible form.

Gen 2 could have either Totodile or Cyndaquil.

Gen 3 also gets decent rep: they all have megas.

Gen 4 will have just gotten starring roles in BDSP.

Gen 5 either Snivy or Oshawott could work, neither really breakouts but both decently liked.

Gen 6 nothing could work, because Froakie already gets insane attention and the other two aren't very liked in their final forms.

Gen 7 Rowlet is the clear and only choice, the most popular of the trio by far and the one that the fandom rages over being shafted in Smash for a less-liked Mon.

Gen 8 is too recent for a repeat.

So if Rowlet is the obvious grass starter, then going Oshawott for water and then Cyndaquil for fire just set themselves from there.

Or maybe Gamefreak just looked at one another, and said, "Just this once, screw the furries."

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#182: Aug 19th 2021 at 7:21:09 PM

I’m sure there will be plenty of screwing considering this is likely the time when humans and Pokémon married in the region.

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#183: Aug 19th 2021 at 7:26:46 PM

[up] All I need is one fellow member of the survey corps implying that they got frisky with one of the more humanoid Pokémon for "research purposes", that's all I need Game Freak.

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#184: Aug 19th 2021 at 7:31:09 PM

People have been making jokes about that sort of thing, but to take it seriously I don't think the time matches up. The Sinnoh legends you read in DPP seem to very old, like 1000+ years, while Legends Arceus seems like 100~200 years before present time.

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#185: Aug 19th 2021 at 7:31:42 PM

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#186: Aug 19th 2021 at 7:38:39 PM

Apparently the starter choices might have to do with Ainu beliefs (remember: Sinnoh/Hisui is based on Hokkaido), but I don't know enough/haven't yet done a Wiki Walk on the Ainu's beliefs yet to know for sure

Edited by jdeo1997 on Aug 29th 2021 at 4:15:58 AM

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#187: Aug 19th 2021 at 7:39:10 PM

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Edited by jouXIII on Aug 19th 2021 at 5:39:41 PM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#188: Aug 19th 2021 at 7:50:55 PM

This is Sinnohs fault for approving PokémonxHuman marriage ages ago.

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#189: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:03:37 PM

They made Salazzle and explicitly stated its pheromones can work on human males, they know damn well what theyre doing.

Also Lopunny is like, explicitly based on Playboy bunny girls

Edited by CountofBleck on Aug 19th 2021 at 11:04:09 AM

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#190: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:05:41 PM

I will only accept a Pokémon game with romance options if the options aren't limited by gender.

Edit: Holy shit, clicked too soon.

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Aug 19th 2021 at 11:05:58 AM

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#191: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:20:36 PM

Apparently the starter choices might have to do with Ainu beliefs, but I don't know enough/haven't yet done a Wiki Walk on the Ainu's beliefs yet to know for sure.

On the subject of Ainu beliefs, this appears on the page Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid – Dragons "There was also an Ainu ritual relating to him (the Ainu god of mountains and bears) where humans would raise a bear cub for a year."

Edited by pikafan on Aug 19th 2021 at 8:22:27 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#192: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:22:14 PM

Yeah Golden Kamuy went over that where they raise orphaned bear Cubs. But they eventually have to put them down I recall because as much as they would like them to live, they’ve become too dependent on people to survive in the wild.

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#193: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:25:05 PM

So Speed is now the best stat in Pokemon?

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#194: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:33:06 PM

Maybe? Unless they put out a demo or something, we'll pretty much have to wait until January to figure out how broken the new battle system is.

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#195: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:38:34 PM

Battle systems in Pokémon have always been broken in someway. The matter is how they are broken.

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#196: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:46:38 PM

The Sinnoh legends you read in DPP seem to very old, like 1000+ years, while Legends Arceus seems like 100~200 years before present time.
Ehhh. Not all the myths have to have occurred around the same time and if humans and Pokemon really did marry each other (Because not all myths are true.) it would have to happen after the events of Legends Arceus since part of the premise of the game is that it's set before Pokemon Trainers were a thing/humans and Pokemon were working together so logically humans and Pokemon wouldn't have started having romantic relationships until after the events of this game, if at all.

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#197: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:52:10 PM

No, it would be the opposite. The point of the humans and Pokemon marrying each other story was that humans and Pokemon didn't view each as separate species in those ancient times they way they do now. Legends would be set long after humans separated from Pokemon as a unique species but before the current Pokemon trainer-centered society formed.

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#198: Aug 19th 2021 at 8:54:41 PM

Can I just say thank you whoever at Game Freak wrote that myth in the first place, because it's amazing that this is a legitimate topic of discussion right now. I hope it's still in BDSP, or I'll riot.

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#199: Aug 19th 2021 at 10:29:25 PM

It does kind of go along with the whole "this magic creature took on a human disguise and married a human for a while" thing. Except without stating that they took on a human disguise. The human just looked at a possibly vaguely humanoid shaped being, or not even one of those, and was like "yes, I wish to spend my life with that" and everyone went along with it.

The Pokemon world should not be left in the hands of the horny, really.

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#200: Aug 20th 2021 at 6:16:05 AM
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