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Throughout this site, some tropers have a habit of adding in potholes and references to their favorite reviewers in entries, e.g. "Come see (reviewer)'s take on it here!"

Not only is it often unnecessary, but in some cases if the critic in question is a Caustic Critic it can be used to invite complaining, on top of crossing over into Reviews Are the Gospel territory since these tropers often treat these reviewers as if their opinion is fact.

Per this thread in Wiki Talk, this thread has been created in Long-Term Projects to clean up this kind of thing and Reviews Are the Gospel-type stuff in general.

REMEMBER: This criteria, made by mightymewtron, should be followed for knowing when to keep reviewer potholes:

If it's a widespread opinion and the entry can stand on its own, and the reviewer just helps explain it, then I don't think it's doing harm.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:28:10 PM

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#276: Sep 10th 2021 at 5:48:08 AM

[up]"People who don't have much money try to be careful with it" is a reasonably well-known thing, though, at least IMO. It's hardly exclusive to Appalachia.

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#277: Sep 10th 2021 at 11:08:10 PM

Fund this on New X-Men:

  • Retcon: Xorn's reveal as Magneto was hastily swept under the rug as soon as Morrison's run ended. This was parodied in the Floating Hands animation Death Becomes Them (Watch it here)):
    Magneto: No, that was actually Xorn's twin brother, possessed by the sentient mold Sublime, pretending to be me, pretending to be Xorn.
    Beast: That defies all logic!

Darvincy Newcomer to tropping from Republic of North Macedonia Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Newcomer to tropping
#278: Sep 14th 2021 at 12:37:58 PM

[up]Remove the link to the video, then try to clean up the rest

Do I look like I know what a Wick is? I just want a link to a gosh dang Cleanup thread!
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#279: Sep 14th 2021 at 12:52:36 PM

Has The Star Wars Holiday Special been mentioned here yet? Numerous entries' context are described with RiffTrax.

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#280: Sep 18th 2021 at 6:53:06 AM

Found these on the various Fifty Shades of Grey pages:

From Film.Fifty Shades Of Grey:

  • Meaningless Meaningful Words: When Ana demands an explanation for why Christian is so reluctant to let her be close to him, he gives us this line: "Because I'm fifty shades of fucked up." Honest Trailers sums it up pretty well:
    Honest Trailers Narrator: What does that even mean? That's not even a common phrase; it's just related to the dumb title of the book!

From Trivia.Fifty Shades Of Grey:

From YMMV.Fifty Shades Of Grey:

  • Narm: Plenty of it, particularly in sex scenes. For example: "You. Are. So. Sweet,” he murmurs, each word a staccato. For the rest, see this tumblr.

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#281: Sep 18th 2021 at 6:54:24 AM

All of 'em are complainin'. Burn them.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#282: Sep 19th 2021 at 11:06:07 AM

Found these on the The Incredible Melting Man pages:

From the main page:

  • Cruel and Unusual Death: The Sheriff is manhandled onto power lines by the Incredible Melting Man. Instead of merely being electrocuted he lights up like magnesium in a microwave...
    Crow: [as the Sheriff] Oh, why did I go on that high-phosphorus diet?

  • Moral Dissonance: Ted, a doctor who should really know better, gives his pregnant wife drugs so she can sleep.
    Servo: Meanwhile, her baby is discovering the wonders of goofballs.

  • Token Minority: Dr. Loring has the only non-white speaking role, although as pointed about by MST3K's Mary Jo Pehl, this is before tokenism had actually taken hold, making the film quite progressive for its day, depicting an African-American doctor (who isn't even killed), a plus-sized nurse who isn't simply a background character or Comic Relief (though her uniform is a tad... tight), unmarried elderly romance, and even General Perry as fairly laid-back when not engaging in Government Conspiracy, having cold turkey and beer.

From Trivia.The Incredible Melting Man:

From YMMV.The Incredible Melting Man:

  • Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: There's also a scene early in the film where Ted Nelson and his wife argue interminably about crackers. Mike and the Bots are completely baffled, comparing it to the steak scene from Raging Bull; they make it into a Running Gag.

  • Narm: When Steve rips the bandages off his face and sees that its starting to melt, he goes berserk and starts trashing the hospital room... with a strip of bandage still sticking to his nose.
    Mike: Uh Melt, you got a little something there.

From Funny.The Incredible Melting Man:

  • The ending, in which a janitor casually walks up to the remains of eponymous Incredible Melting Man, gathers them up, throws them into a nearby trash bin, and goes on about his day.
    Crow: So how many monster movies end with a janitor scooping a monster into a garbage can?

From NightmareFuel.The Incredible Melting Man:

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#283: Oct 3rd 2021 at 1:47:37 AM

Found these on The Boss Baby:

  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Did the film's whole story even actually happen? While at first, the movie seems to play it straight on the whole Baby Co. incident and plot, one has to remember that it is a story being told by Tim to his daughter. Remember that he has a vivid imagination. Also, remember that he said in the end that it was how he remembered it. Even the guys at Honest Trailers can't decide whether it actually happened or not, pointing out numerous bits of conflicting information.

  • Nightmare Fuel: While not intentional on the filmmakers' part, the cleanup babies that hypnotically wipe the parents' memories of Boss Baby come across as this. Even CinemaSins can't help but find them the most terrifying parts of the movie.

MisterApes-a-lot Since: Mar, 2018
#284: Oct 3rd 2021 at 10:52:04 AM

[up]I think you can cut both references, they don't really add anything.

Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#285: Oct 7th 2021 at 8:24:16 PM

From Blue Steel (as written):

Spiritual Adaptation: Both Roger Ebert and Blank Check with Griffin & David have both cited this as basically one of the best Halloween sequals.

This basically boils down to "[critic] thinks this" and nothing else, it's also awkwardly written.

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#286: Oct 7th 2021 at 10:49:27 PM

Found this on Gotti:

  • Life Imitates Art: Director Kevin Connolly and actor Rhys Coiro had previously starred in Entourage, whose fourth season follows series protagonist Vincent Chase, an A-list movie star, trying to make the film "Medellín", his passion project about infamous drug lord Pablo Escobar, made. The strenuous behind the scenes drama culminates in a disastrous Cannes premiere, panning by critics, and a direct-to-video release in the United States. Gotti was a passion project for John Travolta for a good portion of the 2010s. The production was met with numerous dilemmas, culminating in a disastrous Cannes premiere, panning by critics, and a limited theatrical release. This was lampshaded by Martin Thomas in the film's Double Toasted review.

PhantomDusclops92 Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets from Do you even care? Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets
#287: Oct 8th 2021 at 9:54:24 AM

This is yet another case where the reference is tacked on at the end and can be cut with no issue, luckily.

Number one fan of characters that appear only once and ultimately were a recurring character either in disguise or trying a new image.
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#288: Oct 13th 2021 at 9:56:02 AM

Found this on Funny.Batman Odyssey:

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#289: Oct 13th 2021 at 10:37:01 AM

That whole page is a mess, it's full of ZC Es and many of the trope examples are more about mocking the story than actually explaining what happens in it. I would cut that reference for sure.

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#290: Oct 13th 2021 at 12:25:48 PM

Found these on Ghosts Can't Do It and it's YMMV page:

  • Hollywood Heart Attack: Scott's heart attack is just one overdramatic chest-clutching away from doing every gesture associated with one.
  • Ms. Fanservice: Kate. She's Bo Derek in a movie directed by her husband, so of course she's frequently naked. Albeit as Razzies founder John Wilson noted in his book, in one scene it's not so pretty, as she sits on the beach after stripping, covering her nether regions with sand.

  • So Bad, It's Good: At best, the movie can be called this. The Cinema Snob acknowledged the film's worthless but might be worth a watch for how insane it is, and The Official Razzie Movie Guide lists Ghosts Can't Do It as a laughably bad movie, that viewers could laugh at everything from the bizarre plot to Bo Derek's weird hats.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#291: Oct 13th 2021 at 12:29:17 PM

Cut the reviewer links in the first and second. They are really not needed.

Edited by miraculous on Oct 13th 2021 at 12:29:29 PM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#292: Oct 14th 2021 at 1:18:01 AM

And what about the third?

harryhenry It's either real or it's a dream Since: Jan, 2012
It's either real or it's a dream
#293: Oct 18th 2021 at 7:13:11 AM

The Nostalgia Critic is potholed in this example in Funny.Todd In The Shadows One Hit Wonderland 2021:

Given that Todd's review makes no reference to NC's review for Gordy and there's no connection between the shows beyond once being on the same site/cameos, can this really be called a Continuity Nod?

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#294: Oct 18th 2021 at 7:55:40 AM

Nah, it's just two people both making fun of something cringe.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#295: Oct 24th 2021 at 12:35:13 AM

Found this on Dear Evan Hansen:

  • What An Idiot: As YouTuber Jenny Nicholson points out, Evan probably shouldn't have written and printed extremely raw, vulnerable, emotional letters to himself in the middle of a crowded library on a school day. It was only a matter of time before someone saw one of the letters, either by seeing it on the printer or happening to glance at Evan's laptop screen.

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#296: Oct 28th 2021 at 7:56:33 AM

Found this on Emphasize EVERYTHING:

  • Mainstream comic books tend to do this with bold text. It's actually very strange and no one seems to know why it happens. Possibly, it's intended to highlight the key (i.e., plot-relevant) words in the character's speech, and has nothing to do with how the characters are talking. That way the readers, if they want to get to the guys in colored tights beating on each other, can skim more easily. That doesn't make it any less weird for someone who isn't used to reading comics. Linkara loves to point out this, as reading speech balloons aloud (sometimes, as dramatically as possible) is obligatory for his reviews.

    Often (though not always) the emphasized words are those that one would expect to be stressed slightly more in natural-sounding speech: "His power ... I've never seen anything like it!" Using bold text does come across as a bit overly dramatic and italic would probably be better, but a lot of letterers produce "normal" text that's already slanted significantly from the vertical so that italic doesn't stand out as much.

MisterApes-a-lot Since: Mar, 2018
#297: Oct 28th 2021 at 12:02:12 PM

I think you can just cut the Linkara reference entirely. It doesn't add anything.

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#298: Oct 28th 2021 at 12:23:14 PM

Is that in the description or examples? If the latter, it's a general example and should probably be cut anyway.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#300: Oct 28th 2021 at 3:23:34 PM

From RoboCop (2014):

  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: In his review, Doug Walker felt that the movie missed the opportunity to satirize modern development such as social media by limiting itself to only parody a single Strawman News Media program with Pat Novak rather than showing more points of view reacting at the events happening around Murphy and OmniCorp and thus taking the movie on different directions with the world-building, instead of coming off as being less satirical to the modern era than the original film was towards the '80s.

I have seen people before him point this out. Would it be okay to change "In his review, Doug Walker " to "A lot of people"? Or something like that.

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