So this is the return... TV screen in background confirms they're still going with 'blip'. Makes sense that it's actually hella chaotic.
Maria's dead? Aw... Does this mean she won't be in Captain Marvel 2?
S.W.O.R.D. is here 'Sentient Weapon Observation Response Divison', as opposed to 'Sentient World Observation and Response Department'
So she's already been to space?
Oh, the toy helicopter was a drone. Fits a bit better than a real helicopter.
I don't really get the relevance of chemical engineering here. Just covering all the bases, I guess.
As some people predicted, the beekeeper was a hazmat suit.
This must be a big boon for the local antique sellers.
Are we seeing things Sword isn't?
Well that was weird.
Ha Thanos even now your influence is still felt. Maria died before seeing her daughter again. Also awwwww Agent Woo figured out that sleight of hand trick.
Onto sadness, oh no she actually is reanimating his corpse. Fucking Hell.
And further questions on how real those babies are if every character in the field is based off an existing person.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 29th 2021 at 4:46:42 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I enjoyed Darcy and Jimmy being two different flavours of Audience Surrogate, with Darcy watching the broadcast and getting invested in it like it's a regular sitcom, while Jimmy is trying to figure out what's going on and asking all the same questions that we are.
A few questions that got answered, but still raise more questions:
It is confirmed that the sitcom Westview residents are the real Westview residents under new names/identities, S.W.O.R.D. has identified most of the core cast of neighbours/coworkers, aside from Agnes and Dottie (the scene of them identifying people takes place before Dottie appears in the broadcast, leaving it ambiguous whether they identified her later). But if everyone in the broadcast is a real person... who are the commercial people? Why do they only appear in the commercials? It's confirmed, but not commented on, that S.W.O.R.D. sees the commercials too.
The "beekeeper" was a S.W.O.R.D. agent in a hazmat suit that got turned into a beekeeper suit when he entered Westview... but where did he actually go after Wanda said "No."? S.W.O.R.D. probably doesn't see the parts of the show that Wanda rewinds, so they may not know that he made it to Westview at all.
This episode is so meta
, especially as it seems that there's multiple "episodes" of their lives in each decade.
Westview is becoming much more ominous with each episode, with stuff like the lack of indication whether Franklin was kicked out or assimilated into the bubble when Wanda rewound time and how Wanda or someone else has been intentionally cutting out the bits where reality comes crashing in or things taking a turn for horror.
Jimmy Woo and Darcy's little friendship was cute and the Monica character expansion was cool.
So. Uh... another tick in the "Wanda is totes evil" category? I'm not going to count out the existence of a third party just yet, but... yeesh.
Also, how does the corpse thing work? Is it just being puppeteered around by a Vision consciousness she created? Is her reality warping limited at just straight up bringing him back to life?
Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Jan 29th 2021 at 5:20:46 AM
"My husband and his indestructible head..."
I... not that I haven't been constantly reminding myself "Vision is dead. He died. He has been dead since 2018." but knowing that his cold metal cadaver with a gaping hole in his cranium has been right in front of our (and Wanda's) faces this whole time makes all the sitcom hijinks of the first three episodes a lot darker.
I don't think Wanda is evil, per se, I just believe that after fully realized that her brother and the love of her life were truly dead, she is blocking out the trauma and refusing to confront it by holding an innocent town hostage to live out her Wanda Vision sitcom fantasy. I don't really blame her, cause trauma is hard, but yeah, not cool Wanda.
I can't imagine it helps that a lot of people have been reunited with their loved ones (probably most pertinent to Wanda, Clint and his family) since, but Vision wasn't brought back despite having died to the same man right before. And unlike Thor, who's had five years to process the deaths of Loki, Heimdall, and half his people (even if unhealthily), Wanda was snapped away, so for her this is all very new and very fresh. Granted, she's not the only one, but it really does hammer in how much of a raw deal certain people have gotten because they/people they care about were killed by Thanos the wrong way, especially if we assume that it was due to not wanting to abuse the stones rather than a hard-coded limitation like Nat's death seems to have been.
I still think that there is a third party involved. They said that it would end with an epic Marvel fight and I don't think they will have Wanda go full on super villain and have her fight SWORD. It's clear that things are partially Wanda's fault, but there may be someone manipulating her into creating and maintaining this sitcom reality for their own reasons.
Edited by Unoriginalusername3 on Jan 29th 2021 at 5:26:03 PM
Dammit Wanda!
I'd like to know why the Cops and other people outside the town don't seem to remember the town exists.
One Strip! One Strip!
Well, for "who", I would guess it's either Wanda or the third party. As for "how"... *shrugs*
Edited by jouXIII on Jan 29th 2021 at 7:12:13 PM
I assure you, I'm perfectly trustable personMy best guess at the moment is that kind of magic Wanda tapped into to create the reality bubble may of drawn in a 3rd party, if we aren't in an explicit deal with the devil situation. As powerful as she was in Endgame, this kind of reality warping is far beyond anything we've seen previously in the MCU.
Well, maybe she just hasn't used her powers up to the fullest until up to this point. There really wasn't any set limit for her powers to begin with. It would make sense if her powerful emotions regarding her lost loved ones "unlocked" something inside her.
Edited by YellowTemperance on Jan 29th 2021 at 9:23:31 AM
A good theory is that post Endgame Wanda most likely talked to people about restoring Vision only to be told they TRIED but various factors stopped them and keep stopping them. Prior to reversing the Snap they couldn't physically repair him as he's mostly Vibrainum and the best known expert in the stuff, Shuri, got dusted. Even if they got past that we don't know if they had any 'back up' of Vision's mind. If there was one it was most likely in the Avengers Compound....which got destroyed by Thanos. Restoring Vision was most likely a low priority given everything ELSE going on in the 5 year gap.
He was also made from the fragmented code of JARVIS, so even IF Tony still had a copy of either those fragments or the original code for JARVIS there is no guarantee that what would result would be Vision. If they got REALLY lucky and made Vision 2.0, he wouldn't have the memories/experiences the Original Vision had and no guarantee that THIS Vision would have the same feelings for Wanda the original did.
So yeah... Its little wonder that Wanda either played around with her own power or sought out SOMETHING that would give her the HEA with Vision
Oh, somebody on tumblr did a good close-in scan of the “cast member” profiles that are put up on the board in the fourth episode (discounting any blurriness that occurs) - including close-ups of their drivers licenses:
https://amazinglikely.tumblr.com/post/641652370604982272/legal-name-abilash-tandon-alias-norm-age
https://amazinglikely.tumblr.com/post/641662160342302720/legal-name-sharon-davis-alias-mrs-hart-age
https://amazinglikely.tumblr.com/post/641662743273963520/legal-name-todd-davis-alias-mr-hart-age
https://amazinglikely.tumblr.com/post/641663648864075776/legal-name-na-alias-agnes-occurrence-3
What’s important to note is that everybody except Agnes has a NJ driver’s license, with their home address in Westview, NJ. So Westview is definitely a place that exists, but has somehow become cut off from the rest of the world with a perception filter keeping most other people from remembering it or associations with people in the town.
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I think it was the mind stone, the one that used to be in Vision's head and gave Wanda het powers.
Something interesting I noticed: Norm's file includes this " Abilash expresses concern for his father and sister. This information was obtained when Vision awakened him. Is Wanda controlling a whole town? Physical safety of residents is now in question. When Vision releases him, Abilash becomes Norm again."
This hasn't happened yet, right? Maybe it will happen in a future episode (maybe the Halloween one where everyone is frozen), but it seems strange that his file is the only one that contains something that hasn't happened yet.
Edited by Unoriginalusername3 on Jan 29th 2021 at 7:06:24 PM

RE: Episode 4.
So that’s why Carol cut her hair. :(