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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#76: Feb 20th 2021 at 7:22:16 PM

I would believe effects would have advanced by this point though.

MK 2 was over 2 decades ago.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 20th 2021 at 7:22:58 AM

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#77: Feb 21st 2021 at 12:01:45 AM

Not surprised. At least one piece of merch is teasing a grosser mouth than what we've seen so far.

What merch is that, if I may ask? Do you have a link, by any chance? (I'm interested to get a hint of what they might do with her.)

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#78: Feb 24th 2021 at 6:46:55 PM

Thankfully the trailer makes it clear that they've fixed a number of the bigger problems with the early drafts.

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#79: Mar 17th 2021 at 8:10:56 AM

The opening sequence, depicting the death of Sub-Zero's family, was shown to the press. Those saw it believe it implies that Cole Young is Scorpion's son.

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#80: Mar 17th 2021 at 8:28:58 AM

[up]Closest that Scorpion ever had to a living son in-game was Takeda, and that was mostly because he raised the child as a favor to Kenshi. If Cole ends up being a version of Takeda, I'm not sure how to take that. It immediately fixes the OC problem at least.

Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 17th 2021 at 11:30:45 AM

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#81: Mar 17th 2021 at 11:55:49 AM

[up][up]The older 2016 draft of the script straight up had Cole turning out to be Scorpion himself. The 2017 and 2018 drafts changed it and made him Scorpion's son.

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#82: Mar 17th 2021 at 12:59:09 PM

Huh that could be it & huh Cole’s been a consistent presence in these scripts.

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#83: Mar 17th 2021 at 8:32:52 PM

New Mortal Kombat Movie Producers Had Five Key Demands to Get the Movie Right

“Basically, there were five things James and I said — you might call them demands, you might call them really polite asks — we said, ‘There are five things that are really important to us in this movie.’ One, it’s got to be R-rated,” Garner said. “Two, it’s got to be a diverse cast.”...

“Three, they’ve got to be [legitimate] to the lore and backstory, and each character. Four is they need to be real martial artists. And five is we’re gonna do these [specific] characters.”

Garner also said that they didn’t want to have “movie stars” in the film because that is not really the allure of Mortal Kombat in the first place. While there are certainly familiar faces, the cast is definitely not the A-list project that it could have been—especially considering the ease with which it could have been to stuffed with notable faces. Noah Centineo is Liu Kang! You laugh … but you know some producer would.

The key to this happening, as Garner told it, was the success of diverse films like Crazy Rich Asians and Black Panther showing movie studios that films could be successful with diversity and not centering white leads. Adding Cole Young (Lewis Tan) was a way of having an audience insert to ask the questions moviegoers who don’t know Mortal Kombat might ask, without positioning “yet another white guy in a diverse, Asian-led cast to be the hero.”

“I just felt if I was getting the chance to make a movie with a diverse cast, it felt weird to me to have a white actor, literally Johnny Cage, be the hero of the story,” Garner said. “It just felt weird all of a sudden, to have like, ‘Oh, by the way, the white guy is going to come in and kind of be the hero of the movie.’ And we already have Kano in the movie, who’s so great — he’s my big carrot for the sequel.”

While it's great that they wanted a diverse cast, it's strange that this had to be a demand. The heroes of Mortal Kombat have been racially diverse since the second game.

Also, as pointed out in the comment section, Johnny was never the hero of any game. That was his daughter.

Edited by windleopard on Mar 17th 2021 at 11:31:00 AM

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#84: Mar 17th 2021 at 9:53:31 PM

Meh... as a member of the General Moviegoing Public^tm who is unfamiliar with the games it makes sense to me. It's sad but not strange that diversity was a demand; you know at least one studio would've tried to bust out the white paint. (Funny that article mentions Centineo when apparently everyone except Netflix wanted to whitewash To all the Boys.)

Edited by Synchronicity on Mar 17th 2021 at 11:53:44 AM

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#85: Mar 17th 2021 at 11:07:35 PM

I mean, Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade are the only white Americans in the first couple of games, then the white Australian Kano (even though that's a retcon). After that you have Stryker and MUCH later in the timeline Cassie. The games have always been highly multi-ethnic and multi-cultural, with a number of masked or otherworldly characters that doesn't really matter the background of the actors playing them.

So it's not a bad thing to be thinking multi-cultural, but the franchise is intentionally multi-cultural from the ground up anyway.

Edited by EmeraldSource on Mar 17th 2021 at 11:09:01 AM

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#86: Mar 18th 2021 at 4:49:03 AM

So this guy actively stumped to keep out Johnny Cage?

I’m annoyed. He’s one of the heroes, but rarely is he the main hero. He’s either helping someone, and the one time the Cages were the main focus, it was his daughter who was the main hero. He essentially got rid of one of the most popular characters in the game for no good reason.

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#87: Mar 18th 2021 at 5:22:06 AM

The only thing I’m worried about is that the movie’s going to be too serious since Johnny’s not going to be in this.

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#88: Mar 18th 2021 at 5:22:52 AM

Who’s gonna do the crotch shot?

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#89: Mar 18th 2021 at 5:38:25 AM

[up][up] Apparently Kano will be providing the levity.

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#90: Mar 18th 2021 at 5:48:54 AM

Kano is a snake that'll jump ship at some point. The heroes need a funny guy.

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#91: Mar 18th 2021 at 5:51:42 AM

So, you're telling me that a 90's movie, who wasn't trying to deliberately add diversity to it's cast, included Cage without making him the hero or giving him focus, but you couldn't?

Way to miss the point of Johnny Cage being his best as a support character.

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#92: Mar 18th 2021 at 5:56:36 AM

The irony is that Johnny was originally supposed to be the main character of the MK franchise. Mortal Kombat was originally conceived as an action game starring a character based on and portrayed by Jean-Claude Van Damme. After Van Damme dropped out of the project, they re-worked it into what we know it as today.

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#93: Mar 18th 2021 at 6:35:47 AM

[up]And it's fine, that he wasn't the main character, but he was part of the Power Trio, the Roeper to Liu's Lee and Sonya's Williams. You can have characters like that and not have them overshadow or make the Asian leads redundant. Eliminating isn't the answer.

I'm just hoping that I don't watch the film and go "You know what this needed? Johnny."

Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 18th 2021 at 9:37:19 AM

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#94: Mar 18th 2021 at 6:46:39 AM

I expect to.

Between the OC protagonist, Johnny being snubbed, and Mileena's teeth, I expect to watch the movie and think, "The effects and the actors do a great job of bringing these characters and stories to life on the big screen, but the creative choices leave something to be desired."

The trailer was super good, but everything we learn about the film seems to just reveal another crack below the surface. I'm expecting somewhere around the quality of "Milla Jovovich presents Milla Jovovich featuring Resident Evil".

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 18th 2021 at 6:48:19 AM

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#95: Mar 18th 2021 at 7:46:07 AM

The trailer was super good, but everything we learn about the film seems to just reveal another crack below the surface.

This may be... displeasing to you.

Mortal Kombat's Director Wanted to Ground His Gory New Adaptation.

Anyone who asks “Why is Hollywood making a new Mortal Kombat movie?” probably doesn’t follow Mortal Kombat. The first movie was released in 1995, around the same time the third game in the series was sucking up quarters in arcades around the world. In the 25 plus years since, not only have almost two dozen additional Mortal Kombat games been released, many of which add new characters and layers of mythology, but the entire world has changed, as well as the movie industry.

“That movie was so steeped in the times of the ‘90s,” producer Todd Garner said during a recent press event. “Superhero movies, comic book movies, and martial arts movies evolved....Martial arts movies in general were very tongue-in-cheek. Movies like Rush Hour...I think, set a tone where it had a comedic bent to it. I think we’ve evolved from there. I look at movies like Mad Max [Fury Road]. I look at John Wick. I look at Deadpool. I look at those movies and even though they have like, a slyness to them and a wit and humor that’s born out of grounded characters and circumstances, they’re not swinging for the joke. They’re not swinging for the wink. And so we knew that was a tone we were going to stay away from and make this its own thing.”

“It’s just a much more epic, brutal, beautiful, sort of tasteful telling of the Mortal Kombat story,” director Simon Mc Quoid added.

Personally, I think this might be the real reason Johnny isn't in the movie. Or at least, is a more believable reason than not wanting Johnny because he didn't want him to be the main hero (which could be avoided by writing him as The Lancer or comic relief).

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#96: Mar 18th 2021 at 7:53:04 AM

Or at least, is a more believable reason than not wanting Johnny because he didn't want him to be the main hero (which could be avoided by writing him as The Lancer or comic relief).

Which, mind you, is basically what he was in the 90's film: The comic relief The Lancer. Liu Kang was the main hero through and through.

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#98: Mar 18th 2021 at 8:02:00 AM

Everything that the director says makes me less and less enthused for the film. Yeah, the 1995 movie had problems, the self-censorship, the fact that it was rather blatant about cribbing notes from Enter the Dragon, but this crosses the line into "pretentious" territory.

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#99: Mar 18th 2021 at 9:02:47 AM

I Mean this is mortal kombat. It's not supposed to be taken 100 percent seriously.

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#100: Mar 18th 2021 at 10:35:15 AM

I'm speculating, but I wonder whether the creators of this movie didn't exclude Johnny Cage because they feared that, if they went into negotiations with a white American heroic character present, studio execs would push for that character to become the protagonist.

Now, they have Kano—but Kano's Australian, and likely at least somewhat shady. He might thus be less attractive to studio execs as a potential replacement protagonist.

Edited by ArsThaumaturgis on Mar 18th 2021 at 7:35:23 PM

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