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NthEquation from Africa Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#126: Jun 29th 2021 at 12:20:23 PM

I haven't seen it officially confirmed but apparently half of the special edition is a recap.

Edited by NthEquation on Jun 29th 2021 at 12:20:32 PM

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#127: Jun 29th 2021 at 2:22:23 PM

Yup half is a recap. The whole series also ends on a cliffhanger

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#128: Jun 30th 2021 at 12:59:49 AM

Yo, what the fuck was that? I have a very hard time believing that this was the original planned final episode. Like, some points seem directly contradictory? And that's before we get to the part where the whole thing is spent setting up a new conflict. Despite apparently being intended as the finale? It's also possibly the worst episode on purely it's own merits? Felt like they were stuffing in two episodes worth of plot

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#129: Jun 30th 2021 at 4:25:40 AM

sips tea called it. Well, I can't watch the episode today, but seeing people turn on it unanimously is kind of amusing

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#130: Jun 30th 2021 at 10:58:19 AM

[up][up] Half is being generous, closer towards 2/3rds of it being a recap. I counted lol of the 45 minutes given, like 27 was dedicated to recapping the whole series, a good 10 or so tried to rush a wrapping up everyone's arcs, and the remainder was a desperate hail mary to try and squeeze out a Sequel Bait.

I don't like going heavy into speculation, but the nature of this special makes me believe that the director "conceptualized" this series as a 2 cour one, but then only got a single one greenlight. Only to proceed to fuck it up trying to condense it.

Edited by Lionheart0 on Jun 30th 2021 at 2:00:42 PM

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#131: Jun 30th 2021 at 6:38:56 PM

I feel that's overly generous, given that a lot of the production woes seem to have stemmed from a slow and messy writing process that forced crunch and Schedule Slip. The folks at the show's creative heart just didn't know how to write, direct, and produce an anime, requiring immensely talented artists to put in immense amounts of effort to build a beautiful work of art around a rotten, misshapen frame.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#132: Jun 30th 2021 at 7:14:50 PM

I don't know why people think it's the awful production's fault the writing was shit, the cracks were there from as early as episode 2 and if you look up the writer's past works you'd probably be worried

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#133: Jun 30th 2021 at 8:03:13 PM

Think people got their expectations a little too high given the subject matter that was being dealt with.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#134: Jun 30th 2021 at 8:25:13 PM

if you look up the writer's past works you'd probably be worried

None of his past works are anything I'm remotely familiar with or can find much on

Edited by Hylarn on Jun 30th 2021 at 8:25:33 AM

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#135: Jun 30th 2021 at 9:51:10 PM

here's a thread mentioning a few of his past works

I don't have much of an issue with writers who like tackling taboo, but stuff like his trans manga (particularly after I watched the episode with Kaoru) made me incredibly wary of how he was writing.

Edited by Mami on Jun 30th 2021 at 5:53:41 PM

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thuse from see timezone Since: Oct, 2020 Relationship Status: Whoa, they're bisexual! I didn't know that!
#136: Jun 30th 2021 at 11:32:20 PM

Hmm...
I have to wonder if he was a writer from said group writing what he knows or he's a writer from the outside writing about this sort of thing; maybe the controversy would be enlightened with such evidence.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#137: Jul 1st 2021 at 12:37:02 AM

No info I've gotten on the writer implies he's LGBT+. And honestly while his handling of Momoe's arc is awful, it's his handling of girls in general that's the real issue here so he still fails in that regard.

Edited by Mami on Jul 1st 2021 at 8:37:56 PM

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#138: Jul 1st 2021 at 12:53:32 AM

I would agree that the weird, literary-pretentious focus on "serious drama" and the way that Acca and Ura-Acca's comments on "the tempestuous moment of adolescence" go completely uninterrogated, plus the whole "you know how teenage girls are, always hitting on adult men" tone of the show in general... yeah, I can't read the author as anything other than an older adult man. It sounds like he's to be commended for bringing LGBT issues onto TV back in the 90s (assuming it wasn't exploitative, which given the descriptions, it easily could have been), but.

It's been fun.
Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#139: Jul 1st 2021 at 1:33:21 AM

Part of the Accas bad takes going uninterrogated probably has to do with part of the dude actually agrees with it. I somehow missed an interview where Nojima had this to say (interview is in Japanese btw but I managed to get a translation of this section):

I'm sure you've heard of the impulsive part of the story. This is also the reason why the girls who appear from the egg are young.

Some of them even hold hands and jump off together. It's not like holding hands and going to the bathroom together, but it's a feeling that is hard to understand in a male society.In the case of men, I think there are logical reasons for suicide, such as bullying or debt ....... But for girls, it's more like a feeling, and that's what made me start writing this story.

Edited by Mami on Jul 1st 2021 at 10:08:57 AM

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#140: Jul 1st 2021 at 2:17:39 AM

Translating a bit more for clarity:

[Interviewer] And the work touches on the theme of "impulsivity", too, right. And that's tied into the reason why all the ones who come out of the eggs are young women.

[Nojima]Some of them even hold hands and jump off together! It's not quite the same as holding hands and going to the bathroom together, but I think it's a sensation that male society really can't grasp. When men commit suicide, it's because they're really suffering under bullying, for instance, or they're crushed under debt...... I think it's mostly due to logical reasons like that. But girls, well, it's strange to call it "emotional", but I was thinking about how that motivates them, and the uncertain feeling I got from that is what made me start working on this story.

It's been fun.
thuse from see timezone Since: Oct, 2020 Relationship Status: Whoa, they're bisexual! I didn't know that!
#141: Jul 1st 2021 at 2:50:52 AM

Seems like a risk to write about something you never knew about or speculating. It turns into more of a red flag if it has something to do with a group you're not part of. Coupled with the fact that the interview came from last February, and it really breaks my heart to see such a show with so much potential fall to this.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#142: Jul 1st 2021 at 7:06:55 AM

I finally watched the episode and I feel absolutely nothing. The entire episode really emphasized "Women be emotional I guess" especially by telling us the emotional crutch of this entire story was kind of a bitchy asshole who killed herself by accident, things just happen, people just do stuff and at the end of it all we're supposed to clap and be excited I guess? I hope this trash never gets a second season and even if it does I'm not going to watch it

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#143: Jul 1st 2021 at 7:11:31 AM

I would say Nojima should go back to writing TV shows, but there's no indication he was good at that either. At the very least it would stop putting animators in the hospital.

Edited by RedSavant on Jul 1st 2021 at 7:13:48 AM

It's been fun.
burnout02urza Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#144: Jul 1st 2021 at 10:59:17 PM

[up][up]

This was an amazing trainwreck of an episode. Just, a burning train hurtling off a cliff. This was a flameout surpassed only by a recently-completed manga, but boy howdy was this a thing.

"Your words are fire giants, assaulting the Asgard of my mind."
Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#145: Jul 3rd 2021 at 12:41:40 PM

In hindsight, what was the narrative significance of Momoe being Sawaki's niece especially when I don't even remember them interacting the whole show.

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Bur from Flyover Country (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#146: Jul 3rd 2021 at 12:42:29 PM

Presumably to be the token “noooo he’s a good guy I swear!” person.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#147: Jul 3rd 2021 at 12:57:15 PM

Sawaki was such a weird character...

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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#148: Jul 4th 2021 at 4:16:17 AM

Finally watched the last episode, of which a good 70% was recap and the remaining 30% was vague nothings. It burns the goodwill I had left for this anime. Oh well.

Edited by fillerdude on Jul 4th 2021 at 4:17:19 AM

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