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Ban-Evader Reversion Thread

Please read the outline below before proceeding any further.
Important Note: This thread is devoted to reverting the edits of Tropers who have repeatedly chosen to evade their bans and suspensions, since serial ban-evasion is an act which is by its very nature a display of untrustworthiness, the fact that some ban-evaders outright engage in vandalism or add false information notwithstanding.
Moderators may also post in this thread to confirm ban-evaders who've been identified after forum posts, PMs or other interactions with tropers, even if they haven't been directly editing the wiki.
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    Overview 
As mentioned here, due to the prolific nature of serial ban-evaders, there needs to be a team effort devoted to reverting any and all edits made by ban-evaders, especially serial ban-evaders, and investigating otherwise suspicious edits.
    Sandboxes 
In order to accomplish this admittedly Herculean task, sandboxes for Ban-Evader Reversion have been created for the purpose of identifying problematic pages which are edited primarily by ban-evaders.

Depending on how much of the pages can be salvaged, they will either be noted in the B.E.R.T. Watch-List, locked if necessary, or cut if unsalvageable.

Any Frequently Vandalized Pages will also be monitored for suspicious activity.

If you notice a page is primarily edited by a certain ban-evader and/or their socks, please bring your findings to this thread so that cleanup can commence.

Potentially valid examples added by ban evaders should be transferred to Ban-Evader Example Rewrites so they can be salvaged. Make sure to mention transferring examples to the sandbox in your edit reason so others who may be willing to rewrite are aware.

    Resolved Items 

Handling General Ban-Evader Edits:

To paraphrase what is stated here and here:
  1. Bad faith is not necessarily assumed with the contributions of first-time ban-evaders, and their contributions can simply be rephrased assuming they're accurate.
  2. Any serial (more than once) ban-evader cannot be taken at their word, so their contributions are subject to harsher scrutiny. Any verifiable examples can be reworded (especially if there are grammatical or formatting issues), but unverifiable, false, or otherwise prohibited edits are removed. Should there be concerns about the accuracy of a particular sock’s examples, feel free to bring their additions to the fact-checking thread before making any positive or negative changes, where you may either verify/discredit the information yourself or request the help of others to verify/discredit it.
  3. Ban-evaders who deliberately contribute inaccurate or false information are able to have their contributions deleted with little hesitation.
  4. Rewording or reverting can be as simple as expanding on a ban-evader's existing edits, especially if it means adding sufficient context or trimming word cruft.

The subsequent portions of this section outline further how to handle different kinds of edits and contributions.

The following types of edits can be left alone to preserve wiki quality:

  • Grammatical corrections.
  • Spelling corrections.
  • Formatting updates and corrections.note 
  • Crosswicked examples from other tropers.
  • Indexing (if accurate).note 
  • Accurately written potholes.note 
  • Links to the correct Work/Recap/Instalment/Franchise page, including red-linked works.note 
  • Archive edits. (See here.)
  • Launched Tropes.note 

The following edits might need to be reworded in order to stay on the wiki, and depending on the examples, may need to be re-evaluated/verified in this thread or in the proper cleanup threads.

The following edits should remain hidden until they can be verified, and deleted if proven inaccurate:

  • Zero Context Examples.note 

The following items must be sent to the cut-list/otherwise removed on principle (and if applicable, re-created by a trustworthy editor from scratch using a Sandbox):

  • Pages created by ban-evaders using their socks.note 
  • Videos uploaded by ban evaders using their socks.note 
    Forum Decorum 
  • Please refrain from "popcorn posting". This means refraining making comments such as "man, they don't know when to quit", or otherwise unproductive posts.
  • Please maintain an atmosphere of civility.
  • Please do not withhold information about potential sock-puppetry or other ban-evasion related misconduct, as withholding such information makes one an accessory to ban-evasion.
  • When reverting edits, please make notes in the sandboxes, and transfer any potentially valid edits to the appropriate sandbox.
  • When reverting ban-evader edits, please use an appropriate (and civil) edit reason.
  • Should you suspect a ban-evader has shown up in this thread, please do not make open accusations, trash-talk them, or engage in other uncivil behaviour. Quietly holler the post and wait for mod input; if necessary (especially if suspicious edits or issues unrelated to the forum are involved), make a query at "Ask The Tropers".
  • Please respect the thread consensus once it has been established. If an item is resolved, it is usually resolved for a reason.
  • If you have any suggestions for new policies, or wish to contest an old one, do it in the General Policy Discussion, not here.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 9th 2025 at 1:18:38 PM

bunnyofdoomo1 Since: Apr, 2023
#1501: Nov 13th 2025 at 6:41:18 AM

I would say that since discussion is on-going, and Moopsball has not been bounced as of yet, I say hold off

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#1502: Nov 13th 2025 at 3:22:35 PM

Here's another sayaka sock that just got auto-bounced by the system: Trumpsucks

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Theatre_Maven_3695 from Ontario, Canada (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
#1503: Nov 13th 2025 at 5:54:18 PM

Auto bouncing is a thing now? Are we that good at figuring out the patterns of persistent ban evaders?

This is a good thing, obviously.

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#1504: Nov 13th 2025 at 6:01:57 PM

Just extremely specific ones who come back for years with exact patterns.

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Theatre_Maven_3695 from Ontario, Canada (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
#1505: Nov 13th 2025 at 6:06:11 PM

I see. So if, to give Sayaka as an example, a brand new account's first few edits were things like Fetch, MST3K, Quotes/ pages, and so on, they would get caught by this (presumably brand new) system?

Edited by Theatre_Maven_3695 on Nov 13th 2025 at 9:14:56 AM

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#1506: Nov 13th 2025 at 6:27:18 PM

Went ahead and reverted most of their edits. Maybe mod revert their edits on Ruffman pages.

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kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#1507: Nov 13th 2025 at 6:38:38 PM

[up][up] don’t want to reveal how it works since ban evaders could be watching.

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Theatre_Maven_3695 from Ontario, Canada (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#1509: Nov 15th 2025 at 3:25:00 PM

Per this ATT, Boobam45 was thebendu ban evading.

Edit was reverted — it's only one, but noting here for posterity in case they try to come back.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Nov 15th 2025 at 6:26:29 AM

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Wafer A perfectly normal depiction of Rice Shower from the Banjo-Tooie world, meditating (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#1510: Nov 15th 2025 at 6:05:47 PM

Per ATT, Minigolffan is yet another Sayaka sock. All of their edits have since been reverted, but I'll still post this for posterity.

Edited by Wafer on Nov 15th 2025 at 6:06:11 AM

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UFOYeah Since: Mar, 2022
#1511: Nov 16th 2025 at 9:57:12 AM

^ Speaking of Sayaka, as I've brought up on this ATT, disneymustdie appears to be the latest Sayaka sock making the exact same edit on the same MST3K recap page as several of their socks, as well as having an anti-Disney handle like previous sock Disney Sucks.

Edited by UFOYeah on Nov 16th 2025 at 9:58:10 AM

kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#1512: Nov 16th 2025 at 9:59:01 AM

And not sure if these are other Sayaka socks or a new ban evader, disneymustdie and disneysucks. I assume Sayaka since they were editing their usual pages.

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Edited by kory on Nov 16th 2025 at 10:01:04 AM

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#1513: Nov 16th 2025 at 12:46:39 PM

If we can create a program to auto bounce ban-evaders, can't we create one to automatically revert their edits once flagged? The Trumpsucks sock still got edits though before bouncing (I since reverted them).

Theatre_Maven_3695 from Ontario, Canada (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
#1514: Nov 16th 2025 at 1:09:22 PM

Nvm.

Edited by Theatre_Maven_3695 on Nov 16th 2025 at 4:09:40 AM

kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#1515: Nov 16th 2025 at 2:10:33 PM

can't we create one to automatically revert their edits once flagged?

No, this specific ban evader is extremely consistent and it’s the only reason we’re able to detect them and they are already finding ways around it.

The owners also don’t like anything automated when it comes to edits. They didn’t like Septimus running his script to mass edit pages. But let it slide only because he’s a long time moderator.

Edited by kory on Nov 16th 2025 at 2:11:35 AM

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#1516: Nov 16th 2025 at 5:00:06 PM

so i did a query on the database and came up with the most common pages Sayaka edits the most and how many times they've edited them with all their socks. im following some of them and have caught them many times by just looking out for new users editing these pages.

     Pages most edited by Sayaka 
PAGE NAME — EDIT COUNT

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digdis he/him Since: Mar, 2025
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#1517: Nov 16th 2025 at 5:54:27 PM

[up] Could you filter that info by the edits they've made in e.g. the last three months? That might give us all a better idea of their current targets.

kory Admin (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#1518: Nov 16th 2025 at 11:06:48 PM

[up]Its really not much different than the other list but here's everything they've targeted recently

     recent sayaka page targets 

ENTRY — EDIT COUNT

Edited by kory on Nov 16th 2025 at 11:07:07 AM

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