I kind of wish they had gone with "this is the real guy that the toy was based on" because that would incidentally make Lightyear a film that takes place in a universe where toys are alive.
Just going "[normal film premise] and also toys are alive in this universe but none of the characters are aware so that won't factor into the plot" would have been hilarious, but alas since no humans in the Toy Story universe know about the Living Toys thing, we can assume that their fiction takes place in a universe where toys actually are inanimate.
Come now. Batman has a campy 60s show and a Darker and Edgier 80s movie, not to mention the several animated TV shows by the 90s. They can all co-exist.
Lightyear was a movie that had an In Name Only Saturday morning cartoon based on it, that being Star Command, both of which are equally fictional within the Toy Story universe.
There. Problem solved.
It actually makes sense from a timeline perspective: seeing as in the first movie Buzz was treated and advertised as the Hot New Toy Item, it stands to reason that his franchise was relatively recent, and so in Toy Story-land, Lightyear came out in the mid-90s, when cartoons like that still existed, even if they weren't as plentiful as in the 80s.
Edited by lbssb on Oct 27th 2021 at 2:33:07 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonI think the Buzz Lightyear cartoon In-Universe was airing when the events of both 1 and 2 happening, with the show we got having its episodes aired In-Universe after 2.
So the Lightyear movie In-Universe would be released just before the first film.
I say this as a scrapped opening for the first Toy Story would have shown Andy watching Buzz Lightyear on TV.
Also I want us to get Buzz Lightyear of Star Command on Disney+…
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!![]()
Headcanon accepted.
What I'm wondering is if we might see Woody's Roundup get the same treatment further down the line. Of course, that might be a bit harder to pull off, given the Stylistic Suck of the 1950s show Woody is based on in-universe.
The only thing I don't like about the movie is the fact that there's no way a flagship toy from a movie that looks like that would... well, look like the cartoony Buzz. I really would prefer the "it's an In-Universe gritty reboot" idea on a lot of levels.
I guess I can just accept that there was the movie, there was a cartoon-y TV show, and the Buzz toy is from the TV show. Still weirdly convoluted.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.You know I'm still not satisfied with the official explanation of "this is what the toy was based on" because the whole look of the movie so far is very distinctly.... modern? If this is supposed to be an In Univese live action movie released during the time before the first movie, which was like some time in the mid 90s, I'd expect something that looks a lot more... I dunno 90s Bruckheimer-ey.
With that in mind I like the "In Universe gritty reboot of an old toy line a-la Bayformers" idea better. Anyone up for a post credits scene where an adult Andy rants to his kid about how they ruined his childhood
"They ruined my childhood, where's my boy XR?"
Edited by RoboZombie on Oct 28th 2021 at 11:25:45 AM
How did that become a thing for gritty reboots, anyway? Arrow, Powerpuff, Riverdale, wait, I'm noticing a theme here.
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonTo me it actually feels as if Disney initially wanted to do this as live action (like the live action remakes or "origin" stories stories like Maleficent or Cruella), and Pixar, being protective of their IP, told the executives that they'd do it. It just feels like this idea originated from the same minds that thought of the remakes.
I posted the idea on the film's WMG page but I am definitely on the train of thought that this movie is gonna be an In-Universe "franchise reboot" of Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. Of course my theory is more optimistic and heartwarming: that Andy is the writer/director, having graduated college with a film degree and entered the industry in the hopes of brining some of the wild stories he came up with as a kid to life.
Maybe in The Stinger it pulls out to Molly watching the movie with her family, all excited because she knows the person who made it and they gave her a classic Buzz Lightyear action figure as a gift several years ago, which she's brought with her to the movie.
And we see the Buzz we know and love from Toy Story become animate for just a second while nobody's looking, glancing up at Andy's name in the credits with a smile on his face, proud that his kid has gone so far, and touched that he still remembers their playtime so fondly.
Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Oct 28th 2021 at 12:05:57 PM
I saw an interesting comment under the trailer pointing out that, In-Universe, Tim Allen's voice must belong to the voice actor the toy company hired to do a soundalike of the movie actor's voice.
Makes sense: I can't count how many times I've passed through a toy aisle and come across an Iron Man toy that sounds absolutely nothing like RDJ.
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonIt is interesting how "realistic" this looks. Very toned down proportions, no casual outrageous looking aliens and even the space-suit itself looks very armored with a lotta plates.
Wonder if Zurg will appear or not.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 28th 2021 at 12:59:47 PM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Per the director, it's the movie Andy saw
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So this is a in-universe movie that lead to the toy. Or at least a vision of what the movie could have look like.