I wonder if this means the Alien attractions at Disney World will come back some day.
Deadline - Noah Hawley Says FX’s ‘Alien’ Series Is “Not A Ripley Story”, Will Explore Consequences Of Inequality
“She’s one of the great characters of all time,” Hawley said, “and I think the story has been told pretty perfectly, and I don’t want to mess with it.”
From Hawley’s perspective, 20th Century’s Alien films—helmed by Scott, James Cameron and David F Incher—have always been “great monster movies” that are “not just monster movies.
“They’re about humanity trapped between our primordial, parasitic past and our artificial intelligence future—and they’re both trying to kill us,” he said. “Here you have human beings and they can’t go forward and they can’t go back.”
He said that his take on the franchise will look to go deep, as well, examining “inequality” as it juxtaposes the people “you send to do the dirty work” with “the people who are sending them.”
“You will see what happens when the inequality we’re struggling with now isn’t resolved,” Alien‘s creator and EP added. “If we as a society can’t figure out how to prop each other up and spread the wealth, then what’s going to happen to us?”
Hawley also shared that he’s already penned “the first two scripts” for the series, announced back December, which will take place on Earth. It will reportedly blend the timeless horror of the original 1979 film and the non-stop action of Cameron’s 1986 sequel.
Highly amused by all the "Politics in mah Aliens nuuuuh" commentary like they've never seen the originals and it's not always been about poor working-class shmucks thrown to their deaths at the claws of rape-analogy monsters at the behest corporate financial interests.
Edited by Ghilz on Jul 2nd 2021 at 9:20:19 AM
Some additional updates:
- Earlier this month, Hawley described a focus on dueling corporations being a theme for this series in an interview with Esquire.
"Alien is a fascinating story because it's not just a monster movie; it's about how we're trapped between the primordial past and the artificial intelligence of our future, where both trying to kill us," he continued. "As Sigourney Weaver said in that second movie, 'I don't know which species is worse. At least they don't [frick] each other over for a percentage.' Even if the show was 60% of the best horror-action on the planet, there's still 40% where we have to ask, 'What are we talking about it, beneath it all?' Thematically, it has to be interesting. It's humbling to get to play with the iconography of this world."
- Furthemore, visual production house WetaFX is allegedly attached to the series to bring the Xenomorphs to life. They've recently worked on The Tomorrow War, along with Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets and Avatar.
Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jan 13th 2022 at 7:40:58 AM
So its a weird Blade Runner series shoehorned into the Alien franchise.
You and I remember Budapest very differentlyAlien has historically been very much sci-fi horror with cyberpunk happening in the background (if not outright cyberpunk itself depending on who one asks), so it's not an out-of-left-field take on the franchise, at least.
Edited by Chortleous on Jan 13th 2022 at 12:35:08 PM
I feel like it kind of ignores that Weyland Yutani is the actual villain of the movies (ignoring the sequels). There's a reason the first two movies are considered cyberpunk adjacent if not cyberpunk themselves.
The Aliens at least won't fuck you over for a goddamned percentage.
But I think the only decent sequel to Alien and Aliens is Alien: Isolation that remembered greed was the real villain.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jan 14th 2022 at 12:07:26 PM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.It does seem rather disingenuous to call it “Alien” when it won’t have any aliens in it, though.
Way too early to claim that, especially when none of the interviews or comments so far have claimed that there won't be some Xenomorph presence on the series.
Well speaking as a horror writer (I've written a few), I think you can't exactly do 10 episodes of a slasher movie.
You need to have some plot inbetween the murder.
So presumably the alien will only be full on alien murdering in a few episodes.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.I get there has to be a plot that stretches out for 10 episodes, but seeing as nothing mentioned so far seems to connect to the xenomorphs but instead all focuses on transhumanism and cyborg upgrades isn't a promising start IMO.
You and I remember Budapest very differentlyMost of the time, PR stuff for a show isn't gonna talk about the season finale or whatever. IMO, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the show has Weyland-Yutani as the clear villains and they've got some sort of major project that keeps being hinted at where enough hints are dropped that we can figure out it's a Xenomorph related thing, but the characters are in the dark.
Not Three Laws compliant.That's my point. The "Alien TV Show" sounds like the alien will be an afterthought at best.
You and I remember Budapest very differentlyI mean, we know that androids are a thing in Alien so there's going to be that stuff.
We also know the biowar people want Aliens for SOME reason.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Too bad they've made zero mention of biowarfare, exploring other planets, or alien organisms and instead just talk about a technology race between three companies. In fact, outside of the report that Weta is working on the visual effects there hasn't been any indication there would be any alien creatures at all.
You and I remember Budapest very differentlyI think maybe this might be a wait and see type thing. The show hasn't even started filming yet, they're not going to give any meaningful details about the plot and chances are, they're literally just talking about the pilot details at this point.
Not Three Laws compliant.The best part of Alien: Isolation was the worldbuilding about things like Weyland-Yutani had rival corporations.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters."Chances are, they're literally just talking about the pilot details at this point."
They're talking about the overarching themes for the series. Even without getting into serious or meaningful details about the plot, its still odd for an Alien show to have no mention of anything alien related.
While interesting, that wasn't the best part by a long shot.
Edited by Hawkeye86 on Jan 16th 2022 at 7:36:14 AM
You and I remember Budapest very differentlyIt all made the setting feel more grounded. Which is something that the sequels lacked.
You believed the people in Alien were real.
Ditto the Marines in Aliens.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Ugh I know people won't like if their aren't any aliens at all beyond like cameos.
The Xenomorphs are the franchise mascots
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."I mean, it would be complete crap if they're in every episode and a trashfire from start to end. The xenomorphs are literally the monster that is used in film class about how their effectiveness is in NOT being shown.
Seriously, the more you see them, the more the movies suck.
The terror is always in anticipation but never actually seeing but a glimpse.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jan 16th 2022 at 5:55:54 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.They are the unique thing that gives the franchise its image.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."And the more you see of them, the less you care.
I would fire anyone who had them appear before episode 9 or 10.
A dripping bit of salivia, missing colonists, and slime is all you need.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jan 16th 2022 at 5:56:58 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.I think people just want confirmation that the most famous aspect of a franchise is gonna appear in it.
How they are actually handled is a wait and see thing.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Apparently, the approach is going to be a combination of Alien's horror thriller and Aliens' action-packed nature.
Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jul 2nd 2021 at 12:34:03 PM