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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#2101: Jul 30th 2021 at 4:33:47 AM

I *think* its because it had a similar tone to 'stay in the kitchen' but thats just my personal feeling when I read the post previously

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#2102: Jul 30th 2021 at 4:43:03 AM

It is a personal attack on that creator, framed in belittling language. It's inappropriate.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#2103: Jul 30th 2021 at 4:57:35 AM

Yeah that sounds like it crossed the line into a personal attack on them rather than a criticism of their actions or beliefs.

Edited by Silasw on Jul 30th 2021 at 12:57:57 PM

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2104: Jul 30th 2021 at 5:02:28 AM

If someone is saying it sounds close to "stay in the kitchen", then that is way to too far. Even if it's not exactly that, it's still pretty inappropriate.

"What a hack" is a bit rude at most, but not on the same level. It is however sounding like some stuff is less criticism and getting closer to outright complaining at this point(due to the controversy of the subject, though there is going to be understandably some dismay towards the actions she took). Also, she wasn't being simply called childish, but her actions against criticisms itself was called "a childish tantrum", which makes sense in context. That's simply a descriptive statement. As I noted, these could be considered a bit rude... at most. But honestly "a shit book will probably do less damage than a whole terrible movie." isn't exactly a promising statement either or helping the case.

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#2105: Jul 30th 2021 at 5:15:44 AM

Now that I've had a chance to look at the post in question, I agree that it was over the line.

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#2106: Jul 30th 2021 at 5:18:27 AM

So I guess we can't disparage a performer's ability to perform well. Fine. Whatever.

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Lost in Space
#2107: Jul 30th 2021 at 5:27:14 AM

"Alice performed badly in that role."

"Alice is a shit human being who should stop acting forever."

These two statements are not qualitatively equivalent and if you cannot see that, you are the problem.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
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#2108: Jul 30th 2021 at 5:47:36 AM

I looked at the post in question, while the first part is too direct for my liking it isn't thumpworthy by itself. The second part though is just a generic attack, it has nothing to do with your issue with her voice.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2109: Jul 31st 2021 at 4:54:28 AM

It was also in a thread about media diversity, so criticisms of the way Sia portrayed a marginalized group are on topic. Insulting her voice and songs isn’t.

Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 31st 2021 at 6:56:13 AM

DookieIdiotNimrod Back by Unpopular Demand from An abandoned K-Mart Since: Mar, 2020 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
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#2110: Jul 31st 2021 at 6:03:50 AM

Hello, I was banned a while back thanks to some very stupid decisions on my part (The whole Anti-Necromancy fiasco). I was told that in July, I could appeal my ban. And I was told to appeal it here (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=5cma6iojg5o27puhulc24sje&page=907#comment-22666).

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#2111: Jul 31st 2021 at 9:24:14 AM

SNIP; didn't check the link in question.

Edited by Willbyr on Jul 31st 2021 at 9:25:13 AM

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#2112: Aug 2nd 2021 at 5:52:16 AM

It appears that the Looney Tunes thread could use some moderation.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#2113: Aug 2nd 2021 at 5:54:19 AM

like how?

being vague helps no one

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DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2114: Aug 2nd 2021 at 6:14:26 AM

[up][up]I checked the thread and there's nothing inflammatory in recent posts. So why are you requesting mods to keep tabs on it?

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#2115: Aug 2nd 2021 at 6:14:59 AM

I have slept too little to think properly, nevermind...

Edited by Delibirda on Aug 2nd 2021 at 3:19:22 PM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2116: Aug 2nd 2021 at 7:01:51 AM

If there are issues, is there a reason a simple holler wouldn't work? A lot of threads do get out of control, but hollering is the best option.

Also, if people ask what the issue is, don't be discouraged. They want to know because you might see an issue they don't. Flaming isn't the only rule people can break, after all.

Shadow?
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#2117: Aug 2nd 2021 at 7:10:56 AM

Well, I have an insomnia-induced headache, and I am way too sparing with the holler button, mostly 'cuz I'm not always capable of recalling rules, but also 'cuz I don't want to spam hollers for stuff that might not break the rules.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Kevjro7 Susjection! Since: Jan, 2020
Susjection!
#2118: Aug 2nd 2021 at 8:24:30 AM

Edit: Never mind.

Edited by Kevjro7 on Aug 2nd 2021 at 8:25:37 AM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#2119: Aug 2nd 2021 at 3:04:56 PM

I’ve not had problems with my hollers and I’ve rarely ever mention specific rules that a post is breaking.

I’m pretty sure some of the hollers I’ve used to flag up spam bots getting into OTC have been downright conversational to the mods. Most of my hollers are basically just me going “so this person is an idiot and an asshole, but I’m going to holler their post rather than explain to them in great detail how they’re an idiot and an asshole”.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#2120: Aug 2nd 2021 at 3:11:02 PM

Hm?

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
SquidRoofan4Ever Since: Nov, 2017
#2121: Aug 2nd 2021 at 3:39:21 PM

I realized how I post things the way I see them is wrong and not the same as what actually happened. I should have never made those assumptions and show better grammar.

Edited by SquidRoofan4Ever on Aug 2nd 2021 at 3:39:49 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#2122: Aug 2nd 2021 at 3:42:07 PM

Wrong thread mate

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2123: Aug 2nd 2021 at 4:15:42 PM

Silaws is saying that you should give hollers. Spamming hollers means simply sending more than needed at that point. If something continues, a holler may be a good idea, but sometimes they're still busy and can't get it to it... yet.

One way to make things easier is send one holler and link multiple problematic posts, while explaining why. You know how to properly link posts? If not, use this link to Text Formatting Rules to know how to link stuff, besides simply most tropes. It's different from usual forum coding, due to it being based upon what the wiki uses too.

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Willbyr MOD Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#2124: Aug 2nd 2021 at 4:16:48 PM

~Squid Roofan 4 Ever: If you're trying to post about your suspension, you need to do it in the Edit Banned thread, not this one.

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#2125: Aug 3rd 2021 at 6:53:22 AM

[up][up]I see. I'll try to do that.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”

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