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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#2051: Jul 18th 2021 at 4:15:29 PM

I'm wondering if the drop in moderator activity was influenced by recent controversies like the Yack Fest thing or that Jimquisition shitshow. Are there internal politics going on or am I just looking too deeply into it?

I think you’re looking to deeply and people just have stuff on. Maybe Fighteer has decided to try and have a better Tropes-Life balance, but that wouldn’t be internal politics, it would be learning.

It’s not like the Edit Banned stuff is connected to forum drama, it’s all wiki-side stuff I think, mainly the standard grammar issues.

Edited by Silasw on Jul 18th 2021 at 12:16:17 PM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2052: Jul 18th 2021 at 4:44:17 PM

I'm still doing behind-the-scenes stuff, but Edit Banned draws on my mental resilience quite a bit and gets interrupted by RL. Honestly it's a job none of us would prefer to do.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 18th 2021 at 7:44:29 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#2053: Jul 18th 2021 at 9:20:23 PM

And yes, the site really does need more moderators, as much as crazysamaritan's appointment has eased the workload.
The timing of it actually means I was preventing the workload from increasing on a per-mod basis, rather than relieving any. Lu is still active on the moderator chat, sharing the occasional agree/disagree opinions. I'll have a bit more time to devote to the site in a month. Anyone who wants to find me at Otakon this year can find out exactly why I've been so busy, but it isn't important enough to post here.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#2054: Jul 18th 2021 at 11:09:36 PM

Sure, we'll try to find you with no information to work with other than your handle and you being at Otakon. That should be doable.

Personally, I'm not super worried about Edit Banned. It gets back up by like week at most and handling it seems to be something that doesn't need to be rushed. And clearing it out often goes by fast anyway. I'm more concerned about the Locked Pages thread (which involves a lot of editing) and other stuff like ensuring somebody is on to handle potentially urgent reports on ATT.

Edited by Karxrida on Jul 18th 2021 at 11:12:10 AM

ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#2055: Jul 19th 2021 at 9:49:34 AM

Hello. I'm sorry to bother y'all, but I'd like to appeal my Forum Games ban.

A few months ago, I was banned from Forum Games and Yack Fest due to some extremely rude and out-of-line remarks I made about Fighteer during the locking of the Trash Heap on Yack Fest. I was told that I could appeal those bans by a certain date — April 19th for the Yack Fest ban, and July 19th (today) for the Forum Games ban. If you recall I already made an appeal for the Yack Fest ban in April, and now I'd like to do the same for my Forum Games ban. I cannot appeal in the Edit Banned/Suspended thread due to technical reasons, so I was told to appeal in this thread instead.

Rest assured, I have taken the advice of the moderators concerning my behavior to heart. I will not act that way again.

Trope Editor (he/him)
TheWhistleTropes janet likes her new icon. Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
janet likes her new icon.
#2056: Jul 19th 2021 at 10:02:52 AM

[up] I am in the same boat as Clancy. I also wish to have my ban appealed since I have taken the advice of the mods into consideration and aim not to cause any more trouble.

she/her/they | wall | sandbox
Willbyr MOD Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#2057: Jul 19th 2021 at 10:45:21 AM

SNIP per [down]; I overlooked that.

Edited by Willbyr on Jul 19th 2021 at 2:18:10 AM

ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#2058: Jul 19th 2021 at 10:47:29 AM

[up]Their posts state that they do not have the ability to post in Edit Banned.

My musician page
crazysamaritan MOD NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#2059: Jul 19th 2021 at 11:33:45 AM

Correct. Both of you are officially released.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Riley1sCool Since: Dec, 2014
#2061: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:47:34 PM

Okay... no idea if this is the right place to put this, but someone I know has recently had their account denied on the basis that they already have an account. The only response they received upon contacting Fighteer was that it seemed that they had a previous account. (Not trying to rush Fighteer, I know they're busy.)

That said, this person doesn't have a previous account to their knowledge. They have no previous account in any of their saved passwords and they have never made any edits to the site.

Their current handle is Catermelon, for what it's worth, and I'd either like more context for this denial or the enabling of their account.

Or in the event that they do already have an account, having that account's handle revealed to us would also be acceptable since they do not remember it.

Edited by Riley1sCool on Jul 21st 2021 at 5:05:47 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2062: Jul 21st 2021 at 5:21:32 PM

Does this person live in your household? The other account is yours.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Riley1sCool Since: Dec, 2014
#2063: Jul 21st 2021 at 5:24:31 PM

Yes, this person lives in my household. They are, however, another person.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2064: Jul 21st 2021 at 5:38:52 PM

We have only your word for that. Any penalties we assess to them will apply to your account as well. Be careful.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#2066: Jul 21st 2021 at 6:37:07 PM

wrong thread

Edited by nova92 on Jul 22nd 2021 at 9:51:59 PM

Riley1sCool Since: Dec, 2014
#2067: Jul 21st 2021 at 7:30:45 PM

Oh, one last question on this note: Since you're running on my word aloneSomewhat , would I be penalized if this other user were to post in cleanup threads and I cast votes on things they posted? Am I restricted from casting votes due to the fact both our accounts have the same location? I'm asking because I don't wanna vote on anything they do and suddenly get slapped with a penalty for sockpuppeting when I'm not.

I personally would find that unfair Why?  but Catermelon and I are both still held to wiki rules and we will follow them to the best of our ability.

TL;DR, will we function as two separate accounts in every capacity (Since we are two different people) or would I be penalized if I voted on their stuff? Just wanna make sure all my bases are covered and I'm not gonna stumble straight into being punished for something I'm not doing here. I'm completely fine with being held responsible for any penalties they incur— after all, security first— but I'd personally rather not accidentally get myself accused of sockpuppeting.

Edited by Riley1sCool on Jul 21st 2021 at 11:38:13 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#2068: Jul 22nd 2021 at 7:06:48 AM

This is a separate request but can we please reopen the general Star Wars topic? (this one)

Two years have passed and I think its safe reopen it now surly

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Kevjro7 Susjection! Since: Jan, 2020
Susjection!
#2070: Jul 22nd 2021 at 9:48:51 AM

Requesting the mods to lock this TLP draft. Consensus is that it needs to be discarded (and remade if there's anything salvageable in it), but based on what the sponsor said in edit banned, he'll restore it again when he's released.

DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2071: Jul 22nd 2021 at 2:14:46 PM

[up]I agree with this. While the banned troper acknowledged their mistake, they're also showing passive resistance and the desire to get the Black Swordsman Substitute "trope" out at all cost. It seems like they're refusing to accept the fact that the draft had many problems and can't be salvaged in its current state.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#2072: Jul 22nd 2021 at 2:16:43 PM

Yeah, I noticed that too. They aren't actually willing to work with people; they seem entirely convinced that everyone else is wrong. They're bound to just un-nuke the trope if they're released.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#2073: Jul 22nd 2021 at 2:18:58 PM

Forgive me for being naive, but is passively threatening to restore a nuked draft grounds for suspension/keeping someone suspended anyway, regardless of if the draft gets locked or not? Not asking for the mods to do anything, just wanted to know in relation to the above posts.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jul 22nd 2021 at 5:20:40 AM

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#2074: Jul 22nd 2021 at 2:20:50 PM

Granted it's context dependent here; not all nuked drafts were actually nuke-worthy. In this case though the consensus is that the draft was unsalvageable, so them restoring it would not only defy that consensus but would also just continue to beat a dead horse.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2075: Jul 22nd 2021 at 2:22:07 PM

Yeah, like if it had just been on a draft that wasn’t ready yet it would be one thing. As it stands, this particular draft was unsalvageable and more than a few people agreed, so even if they’re willing to follow the rules this time the fact that their first thought is still to recreate and launch it as is isn’t a good sign.

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Jul 22nd 2021 at 5:22:38 AM


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