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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from 🐾Furrypines 🇵🇭 (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
🍊orange fursona🧡
#1851: May 29th 2021 at 7:25:04 AM

G'luck, Septimus. Hope you'd pass to become an Extra Ordinary Wizard. [tup]

ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1852: May 29th 2021 at 11:48:31 AM

Good luck. [tup]

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
GnomeTitan Oversized Garden Ornament Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Oversized Garden Ornament
#1854: May 29th 2021 at 1:40:56 PM

Good luck!

REV6Pilot Powered Armor feet go 'clomp clomp' from Live from the Spire Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Powered Armor feet go 'clomp clomp'
#1855: May 29th 2021 at 1:56:49 PM

Have a good one, Septimus! [awesome]

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#1856: May 29th 2021 at 2:12:59 PM

Good Luck!

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1857: May 29th 2021 at 2:31:06 PM

You'll kill it Sep, good luck.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1858: May 29th 2021 at 3:07:27 PM

Take care, Septimus.

Edited by DivineFlame100 on May 29th 2021 at 3:07:38 AM

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
Myskywarm Always open to sharing avatars and chatting. Can message me for either. (He/Him) Currently watching: BTAS from Ee-arth (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Always open to sharing avatars and chatting. Can message me for either. (He/Him) Currently watching: BTAS
#1860: May 29th 2021 at 8:42:42 PM
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#1861: May 31st 2021 at 7:03:17 AM

Good luck Sep, we're rooting for ya!

Soooooo kinda random, but over a month ago we were talking about potentially including the process for mod selection in an Administrivia article, either the current Know the Staff one or just a new one altogether - I even made Sandbox.How Moderators Are Chosen to kick it off - and then it never really went anywhere, so I'm wondering if there's still a place this info can go since some people are curious about the process.

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#1862: Jun 6th 2021 at 7:37:51 AM

Hey all, I hope I don't sound impatient (and Septimus, if you're seeing this, I hope your exam stuff is going well) but a side effect of his absence is that the Locked Pages thread is getting super backed up, and someone probably needs to get in there to catch it up. As it stands, nothing's been done there since May 28th and there's a full page and a half of unprocessed requests.

Kevjro7 Susjection! Since: Jan, 2020
Susjection!
#1863: Jun 6th 2021 at 9:33:28 AM

Same thing goes for Video Moderation Requests. The linked request and all the ones after it still haven't been handled.

Vandagyre I think I just got AC team loyalty from Dacardia (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
I think I just got AC team loyalty
#1864: Jun 6th 2021 at 3:29:55 PM

Has anyone done as Septimus suggested and asked other mods for help with those threads?

Cave Johnson, we're done here.
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#1865: Jun 6th 2021 at 3:35:17 PM

That was kinda what I was going for by posting here, since this is the one place I know at least a few mods frequent

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Jun 6th 2021 at 6:37:58 AM

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#1866: Jun 6th 2021 at 4:15:53 PM

The main problem is that we still have too few mods right now. I'm working on catching up with the capitalization thread today and I plan to tackle the locked pages next.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1867: Jun 9th 2021 at 11:41:47 AM

Not to pile on, but ATT is also getting a bit backed up. Several reports, specifically those involving problematic tropers, have gone unaddressed. I know this happens anyway sometimes, but usually it's only certain threads that get overlooked.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Ngamer01 Hi there. from Louisiana Since: Oct, 2010
Hi there.
#1868: Jun 9th 2021 at 1:24:57 PM

[up] ATT always had problems though. That is the constant popcorning in threads that the mods have said before that makes them less wanting to check ATT. That and there's also the delay that the mods need to discuss how to handle certain ATT cases, but with various threads having posts exceeding what is needed, they can't even mention the topic is under discussion with other mods and so ATT threads continue ballooning until they're finally resolved, locked, or get punted down the road to a new topic.

Edited by Ngamer01 on Jun 9th 2021 at 3:25:25 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1869: Jun 9th 2021 at 1:26:31 PM

I acknowledged that in the post, fam. But this is less activity then I've seen from mods there in a while. "ATT having problems" isn't the issue at hand right now. I'm there every day. I can promise you that this is worse than normal.

Edited by WarJay77 on Jun 9th 2021 at 4:27:27 AM

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1870: Jun 9th 2021 at 1:29:15 PM

Sorry but they’re upset that popcorning happens in ATT? Shouldn’t that be more of a reason to stay on top of it?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#1871: Jun 9th 2021 at 1:41:05 PM

[up] We can't be on top of things all the time...the price of having a limited staff is having to parcel our time as we can.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1872: Jun 9th 2021 at 1:44:12 PM

Oh, yeah. I wasn't trying to give a call out or anything. I was just pointing out another side-effect of Sep's absence in the hopes of getting it fixed.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#1873: Jun 9th 2021 at 1:48:11 PM

Honestly, I think the best course of action for most users would be just ignore att and other stuff unless it's an urgent issue (especially if made of asshatery) that needs immediate mod attention, focus on something else like making work pages and other generally uncontroversial things that don't require mod supervision, or partake in other life activities until things clear up.

For the moderators, I'd say they should just screw discussion if it doesn't seem absolutely necessary and come up with a table of semi-automated procedures (as fully-automated means bots/other coding, while this would be saving time on discussions and decision making). Even if it's not always just, don't worry too much about it. tell people to go away if they pester them or aren't useful.

But those are mostly my ideas, I don't control them. "We choose what holds us back and what moves us forward.", I guess.

Edited by Piterpicher on Jun 9th 2021 at 11:45:23 AM

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1874: Jun 9th 2021 at 2:40:15 PM

Is this only recently? Septimus has been away for a few weeks, which would account for some more delay than usual.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1875: Jun 9th 2021 at 6:01:24 PM

The site is simply too understaffed. There needs to be more new moderators recruited, especially to fill in the gaps that retired past mods have left behind.


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