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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#201: Feb 22nd 2023 at 2:30:27 AM

Antisemitism is something extremists from all sides of the political and religious spectrum agree on, unfortunately.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#202: Feb 22nd 2023 at 3:03:53 AM

It really doesn't help that because antisemitism was so pervasive over centuries, it's permeated our culture. So many genre conventions, so many conspiracy theories, so many tropes...they're rooted in antisemitism.

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#203: Feb 22nd 2023 at 4:01:05 AM

Dont exonerate "moderates" (for whatever that means) from antisemitism, they happily benefit from it and continue to perpetuate it with any excuse they can work with.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#204: Feb 22nd 2023 at 4:09:15 AM

Sad but true — antisemitism isn't just the purview of Neo-Nazis. It never was.

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#205: Feb 22nd 2023 at 7:37:21 AM

Every few years you see people and media being shocked about antisemitism being "on the rise"… but as far as I know, Jews have always been more likely to be attacked than other communities, proportionally. There’s nothing recent about it. Internet simply makes antisemitic groups and rhetorics more visible.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#206: Aug 29th 2023 at 4:39:29 AM

Bavarian's deputy premier is currently wrapped up in an antisemitic scandal

https://www.dw.com/en/bavarian-premier-summons-aiwanger-over-antisemitism-scandal/a-66645854

Seems like he published a far-right leaflet in his school days.

Markus Söder has not yet fired him.

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#207: Aug 29th 2023 at 5:59:57 AM

So this happened almost 40 years ago? Did he get in hot water for similar stuff ever since?

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#208: Aug 29th 2023 at 6:58:56 AM

[up]

He's a right-wing populist and is threatening legal action over the story.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#209: Sep 18th 2023 at 6:51:11 AM

General observation: Not that Weinstein and Epstein aren't terrible people based on the allegations against them (in fact I'd even call said actions desecrations of God's name), but the same people who try to use those names as excuses to paint all Jews as sexual deviants fall silent whenever someone brings up, say, the Order of 9 Angles or Nathan Larson.

It almost seems like these Jew-Haters are projecting, at least somewhat.

[down] Fair point.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Sep 21st 2023 at 9:30:59 AM

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#210: Sep 21st 2023 at 6:22:11 PM

You are so kind. I am almost certain that it's actual hypocrisy, not projection.

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TURI12345 Since: May, 2021
#211: Oct 9th 2023 at 1:36:27 PM

Question, is the attack on my country (Israel) considered as anti-Israelic or antisemitism?

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#212: Oct 9th 2023 at 1:37:47 PM

I think it could be considered more anti-Israelic, though the ones behind it aren't afraid of using antisemitic rhetoric as well.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#213: Oct 9th 2023 at 1:45:30 PM

Hamas is definitely antisemitic.

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Warder of the damned
#214: Oct 9th 2023 at 4:37:14 PM

[up][up][up]Yes.

Hamas is both Antisemitic and Anti-Zionist, for them both Israelis and Jews outside Israel are targets.

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TURI12345 Since: May, 2021
#215: Oct 10th 2023 at 4:11:08 AM

My last post was sarcastic because of a few stuff that I saw that people published. Another question this time a serious one how many people here consider Mahmoud Abbas as antisemitic?

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#216: Oct 10th 2023 at 7:38:10 AM

Abbas has said things like, to quote "The Guardian":

"They say that Hitler killed the Jews for being Jews and that Europe hated the Jews because they were Jews."

"No. It was clearly explained that they fought them because of their social role and not their religion." Abbas later clarified that he was referring to "usury, money and so on"

It certainly seems like he buys into the stereotypes behind Jew-Hatred if nothing else, at best.

I don't think this is exclusive to Palestinian culture, however (not that you are implying it was).

Many Belgians still buy into that BS.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 10th 2023 at 10:41:21 AM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#217: Oct 11th 2023 at 1:21:59 PM

[up]I suppose Godwin's Law getting applied to Abbas would be pretty apt because the Nazis were basically the worst-case scenario of what anti-semitic conspiracy theorists could become

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 11th 2023 at 9:22:35 PM

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#218: Oct 11th 2023 at 1:46:37 PM

Godwin's Law isn't about validity or anything - it's purely about the likelihood of Nazi comparisons happening. Nothing else.

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Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#219: Oct 11th 2023 at 2:56:22 PM

Godwin's law is kind of like the Breschel Test; a lot of people don't really seem to understand what the point of it was and always seem to use it the wrong way.

Also I can't really think of too many times when I saw Goodwin's Law happen here on TV Tropes, outside of works involving literal fascists.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#220: Oct 11th 2023 at 3:17:50 PM

It's not like you're never allowed to compare things to actual Nazi's.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#221: Oct 11th 2023 at 5:09:16 PM

I'm not comparing Abbas to Hitler. I'm just saying he and many Belgians seem to still buy into that "Jews and Money" nonsense.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 11th 2023 at 8:43:03 AM

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#222: Oct 13th 2023 at 7:29:17 PM

Oh freaking Hell.

My dad, a long-time conspiracy theorist and anti-semite (or am I just repeating myself), has gone on a rant about how the whole Hamas' mass murder of children gets so much attention due to Jews running the media.

Jesus FUCKING CHRIST, it's 2023, not 2003. I can't (and can, sadly enough) believe that someone would hold on to this dumbfuckery over longer than I was alive.

I bet it would be unsurprising to hear that this dumbass still believes that 9/11 was an inside job.

SURPRISINGLY enough, though, he doesn't believe in anti-vax conspiracy and got himself vaccinated even more than me (he got four, I just got three). I guess even for a conspiracy nutjob like him anti-vaxxers are ridiculous...

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#223: Oct 14th 2023 at 8:28:07 PM

If we ran the media, I would think there would be less biased stories from the New York Times about Haredi Jews.

[down] Fair enough.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 14th 2023 at 2:08:33 PM

eagleoftheninth Shop all day, greed is free from a dreamed portrait, imperfect Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#224: Oct 14th 2023 at 10:35:08 PM

I think I know which articles you're talking about. I remember this 2020 op-ed written by an Israeli journalist talking about the spread of COVID in Haredi communities (both in NY and his native Israel), and this series of articles over the past year discussing educational issues in New York's Hasidic yeshivas, written by a pair of journalists from Jewish backgrounds.

Obviously not a case of Jews "controlling" the media in the conspiracy theory sense, and I'm not really familiar enough with the subjects to comment; but New York is a place with a historically large Jewish population, which means 1) lots of news items pertaining to the local Jewish community, and 2) lots of Jewish journalists/media workers to report them. Those articles might or might not be unfairly biased against the Haredi community, I don't know – from an outsider's perspective, they struck me at a glance (particularly the yeshiva story) as stories primarily written for the NYT's large (though liberal-leaning?) Jewish readership (and then globally boosted because it's both a local and international paper).

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Oct 14th 2023 at 10:40:15 AM

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#225: Oct 18th 2023 at 6:35:45 AM

Berlin synagogue attacked as antisemitic incidents rise

A Berlin synagogue was attacked with Molotov cocktails early Wednesday as antisemitic incidents in the German capital have been rising following the violent escalation in the Middle East.

The Kahal Adass Jisroel community said its synagogue in the city's Mitte neighborhood was attacked with two incendiary devices. Police confirmed the incident

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