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Deadlock Clock: Jan 30th 2021 at 11:59:00 PM
mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#26: Nov 20th 2020 at 2:16:45 PM

And we can move the legitimate examples of misused personality disorder diagnoses to Hollywood Psych, right?

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#28: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:21:20 AM

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#30: Dec 15th 2020 at 5:05:38 PM

Yep, it's unanimous. Calling.

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#31: Dec 27th 2020 at 6:44:27 PM

Bumping to actually begin the cleanup. Does Sandbox.Useful Notes Personality Disorders look okay?

Edited by LaundryPizza03 on Dec 27th 2020 at 8:47:50 AM

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#32: Jan 27th 2021 at 6:36:28 AM

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#33: Jan 27th 2021 at 1:03:23 PM

Again, is the sandbox okay to move to Useful Notes?

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#36: Jan 27th 2021 at 3:38:31 PM

Alright, time to clear out or move wicks.

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#37: Feb 10th 2021 at 12:03:26 PM

The examples on the UN have to be explicitly diagnosed, right?

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#38: Feb 10th 2021 at 12:08:01 PM

[up] If not diagnosed, it should at least be suggested in-universe that they have the disorder. The old trope invited uncomfortable speculation and I don't want a repeat of that.

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#39: Feb 10th 2021 at 12:15:42 PM

Hmm... not sure what to make of phrasings like these that unambiguously diagnose a character without saying if the diagnosis was in-universe. (Haven't seen either film)

  • Film.Sunset Boulevard: Norma Desmond has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. She didn't take her descent from superstardom well. She hired a former director as a butler and reads fake fan mail. Eventually she goes completely delusional when she can't accept that the world doesn't revolve around her. (I moved this to Narcissist)

  • Film.The Professional: Norman Stansfield has Antisocial Personality Disorder. Antisocial, lacks empathy, and murders without a shred of remorse.

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#40: Feb 10th 2021 at 12:16:57 PM

Yeah, if they don't state any actual diagnosis, we can probably just cut or move them as needed.

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#41: Feb 10th 2021 at 12:21:08 PM

Are these "strongly suggested" enough?

  • High School DxD: Occult Research Club: Discussed, Akeno claims that she is the kind of person that has to depend on men signifying Dependant Personality Disorder. This is later shown when Issei, temporarily, died; While the rest of the harem did show extreme amounts of grief, Asia contemplating suicide, Akeno went catatonic unable to come out of it, until her father was able to provide support.
  • Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Adrian Andrews has what is almost certainly Dependent Personality Disorder, but it's never identified as such by name, merely referred to as "codependency" (changed to "dependent personality" in the 3DS Trilogy release). (my own context: they do say the word "codependency/dependent personality", and part of her backstory involves the psychological fallout after someone close to her committed suicide)

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#42: Feb 10th 2021 at 12:21:31 PM

Norma Desmond, as far as I know, is not confirmed to have NPD. She is simply a Narcissist. I looked up the second film and I don't think that diagnosis is canon either.

As for [up], codependency can exist outside of DPD. In fact, other personality disorders can involve codependency, such as AVPD and BPD. However, "dependent personality" may be specific enough to be a heavy implication. But her wiki page says the quote is "dependent nature" which is less specific.

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 10th 2021 at 3:24:07 PM

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#43: Feb 10th 2021 at 12:26:41 PM

Yeah, I saw similar phrasing on a Naruto subpage where there are 0 ninja therapists and decided those are probably armchair diagnoses. Stated in edit reasons they can be added to the UN only if they were legit in-universe diagnoses.

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 10th 2021 at 2:37:31 PM

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#44: Feb 10th 2021 at 1:03:45 PM

Double post to say dewicking is done save for JustForFun.Television Is Trying To Kill Us. I asked the locked pages thread to fix that.

What to do with Main.Hollywood Personality Disorders? Redirect? Disambig between Hollywood Psych and the UN page?

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 10th 2021 at 3:07:19 AM

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#45: Feb 10th 2021 at 1:39:57 PM

I'd be for a disambig, since the "Hollywood" and "Personality Disorders" aspects are especially split between those two pages.

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#46: Feb 10th 2021 at 3:25:55 PM

Let's go for a disambig.

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#48: Feb 11th 2021 at 1:53:35 PM

Someone disambiguated it; I put it on Ambiguity Index just now.

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#49: Feb 14th 2021 at 8:51:38 AM

Alright, closing.

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