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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11376: Aug 4th 2024 at 3:04:17 AM

I thought bad-faith meant "arguing for the sake of being contrarian".

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#11377: Aug 4th 2024 at 3:06:13 AM

That's fair. I legitimately feel the ending trips on itself by going excessively bittersweet just for the sake of that last minute twist.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#11378: Aug 4th 2024 at 3:06:23 AM

That's also dishonesty since it means you don't really believe what you're saying and you're just doing it to be contrarian.

Disgusted, but not surprised
The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#11379: Aug 4th 2024 at 8:22:28 AM

[up]huh so that means I'm not really a contrarian, as I have the honest ideas that the fights in MHA is one of the best in Shōnen which goes against the majority in the anime community.

After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. My one and only Fate servent.
Luisdalas Since: Sep, 2023
#11380: Aug 4th 2024 at 11:24:50 AM

Regarding the ending, there is also some discussion as to whether the ending is a well-implemented case of Surprisingly Realistic Outcome.

Supporters say it's unrealistic for high school classmates to spend time together especially if they chose different careers, and about deku and Ochako, they said that a high school crush isn't something that lasts anyway.

Those against it say that a superhero manga doesn't have to be realistic.

Edited by Luisdalas on Aug 4th 2024 at 11:26:05 AM

Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
Editor of Posts
#11381: Aug 4th 2024 at 11:45:13 AM

It's a bit weird to talk about whether the outcome with Ochaco was realistic when we didn't even get confirmation on what the outcome even was.

Edited by Druplesnubb on Aug 4th 2024 at 8:45:29 PM

LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11382: Aug 4th 2024 at 11:47:14 AM

Yeah. It could be either that, or they're still open to a relationship but can't do it when they're so busy at the moment.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#11383: Aug 4th 2024 at 12:38:27 PM

And for the last damn time, the story did not say that they never saw each other again after graduation, that was a mistranslation of the initial leaks. The official text says that they are all still in contact, its just hard to meet up in person due to conflicting schedules.

LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11384: Aug 4th 2024 at 12:39:27 PM

That's much better, at least.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#11385: Aug 4th 2024 at 1:57:36 PM

There's one thing the Deku/Ochako shippers haven't thought about (that unfortunately the manga itself doesn't say either way or the other): that Deku and Ochako are simply in a long distance relationship.

Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11386: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:11:02 PM

...Oh shit, that works too.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Luisdalas Since: Sep, 2023
#11387: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:43:54 PM

"(that unfortunately the manga itself doesn't say either way or the other)"

That's the problem, the manga doesn't say anything.

MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#11389: Aug 5th 2024 at 12:59:42 PM

Not really, All Might smashed the fourth wall at the last second.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#11391: Aug 5th 2024 at 3:57:28 PM

Still surprised he survived the series and is still kicking by the time of the epilogue.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#11392: Aug 5th 2024 at 4:01:49 PM

He went beyond (PLUS ULTRA) his role as a shonen mentor.

That's how All-Might rolls.

One Strip! One Strip!
IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#11393: Aug 5th 2024 at 7:30:22 PM

I think we were all spoiled by Naruto showing how the love lives of literally everyone in the main generation turned out. Not that anything less could have quelled the wars.

Edited by IniuriaTalis on Aug 5th 2024 at 10:31:02 AM

Does anyone actually read these?
Luisdalas Since: Sep, 2023
#11394: Aug 5th 2024 at 7:35:56 PM

Nah, there was no need to give us a naruto ending.

It was enough if they gave us a Mob Psycho 100 ending, if they decided to go the Did Not Get the Girl route, and a Full metal alchemist Brotherhood-like ending if they end together.

If they had given us a scene where Ochako tells Deku that her hero career takes priority and she can't have a romance, it would have been a good thing.

Edited by Luisdalas on Aug 5th 2024 at 7:39:59 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#11395: Aug 5th 2024 at 7:44:19 PM

The lack of resolution either way in the ending suggests that the romance was not considered important enough to address.

Disgusted, but not surprised
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#11396: Aug 5th 2024 at 7:46:21 PM

Yeah at the end what mattered was the close emotional moments he had with Ochako, Bakugou, etc. rather than romance specifically.

[up]x3 Naruto was even followed with a kid spin-off short manga of Salad and the fact she never sees her dad.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Aug 5th 2024 at 7:47:45 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Luisdalas Since: Sep, 2023
#11397: Aug 5th 2024 at 7:48:20 PM

[up]*2. Neither in Fma: brotherhood or Mob Psycho 100, and they had more satisfactory closings.

Edited by Luisdalas on Aug 5th 2024 at 7:48:40 AM

MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#11398: Aug 5th 2024 at 7:49:40 PM

The romance shouldn't have even been a thing if they can't be bothered to address it.

You don not need to have Toga and Ochaco crushing on Deku and the later suppressing her feelings to make this story work.

Fucking waste of decent set up.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#11399: Aug 5th 2024 at 7:50:06 PM

FMA pretty explicitly makes clear that there was romantic resolution.

Mob Psychos manga does end with it explicitly as Just Friends, but the anime opened it up to be potentially more if I remember right.

[up] Toga crushing on Deku become the means by which she became interested in Ochako. It’s pretty explicit by the end her relationship towards Uraraka was clearly more important than her crush on Deku.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Aug 5th 2024 at 7:51:18 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Luisdalas Since: Sep, 2023
#11400: Aug 5th 2024 at 7:58:06 PM

If Uraraka's development consisted of overcoming her feelings for Deku to focus on his heroic career, they should have made it more explicit.


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