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CheapMarzipan A Low Cost Confection Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
A Low Cost Confection
#11351: Aug 3rd 2024 at 5:01:36 PM

The more I think about it the more I’m annoyed at the fakeout. There really is no reason for it, just have it as Deku having continued being a hero with the armor briefcase all along. None of this wishy washy, oh we have this melancholy ending but sike not really.

MisterZygarde64 Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth from New Mobotropolis, Mushroom Kingdom Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth
#11352: Aug 3rd 2024 at 5:16:42 PM

It’s why I think they should’ve had Izuku lose the embers of One for All right when his super suit was just finished. Let him do some hero work as he’s always wanted and then when he’s used up all those embers, it’s straight to using the suit he and Class 1-A were having developed just in case this situation occurred.

Edited by MisterZygarde64 on Aug 3rd 2024 at 2:19:15 AM

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The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#11353: Aug 3rd 2024 at 7:39:04 PM

[up]Yeah that sounds better then what happen, as that shows how much they care about Izuku.

Edited by The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion on Aug 3rd 2024 at 7:39:27 AM

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Luisdalas Since: Sep, 2023
#11354: Aug 3rd 2024 at 9:32:17 PM

Ochako's conclusion seems strange to me, is that unlike Falin/Marcille, Satoru/Kayo (Erased), Narusasu, Ichigo/Rukia, Ash/Misty, Harry/Hermione or others like it, this was not a case of Platonic Writing, Romantic Reading,But there really seemed to be a romantic intention

Edited by Luisdalas on Aug 3rd 2024 at 9:32:30 AM

Trainbarrel The Story Supporter from The Star Ocean Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
The Story Supporter
#11355: Aug 3rd 2024 at 11:22:49 PM

At this point, the best thing to hope for is some clarification in the upcoming release of the extra-material regarding MHA.

I fit says "Ochako and Izuku dated for a while, realized they needed to get their lives in order first, and put an engagement on hold(Okay, I admit that is just me with wishful thinking...) until then." then I'll be fine with it.

If we still do not get anything...

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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11356: Aug 3rd 2024 at 11:31:28 PM

[up][up][up] But the situation as shows that they still care, so it's best not to give a bad faith take that taking them long to develop a suit meant they care little.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#11357: Aug 3rd 2024 at 11:47:51 PM

I wonder if Horikoshi just really wanted that visual gag of All Might popping up to crush the "The End". Thats pretty much the only value I got out of this being framed as a twist.

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#11358: Aug 4th 2024 at 12:34:35 AM

[up][up] You need to stop using "bad faith" for every argument you disagree with.

And while the suit shows that they care, we also have it in-text that Deku hadn't seen anyone in a long while, because everyone is so busy and can't make time for him. So much for the world where heroes have more free time...

LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11359: Aug 4th 2024 at 12:38:58 AM

More free time doesn't always mean that free time is always available.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#11360: Aug 4th 2024 at 1:30:23 AM

@Lone Courier 0 I'm sorry to say but it would probably be best if you step away from this as a lot of people have legitimate issues with the ending as a have-a-cake-and-eat-it-too scenario.

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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11361: Aug 4th 2024 at 1:32:32 AM

Maybe, but I don't exactly agree with that notion, as the other Twitter user mentioned.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#11362: Aug 4th 2024 at 1:37:23 AM

[up]Twitter is a horrible place that is only for raw unfiltered takes and brainrot, not a place for proper discussions.

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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11363: Aug 4th 2024 at 1:38:21 AM

I meant the one user who wasn't brainrotted, and gave a proper rebuttal to the bad-faith takes thrown at the ending, which are well constructed arguments instead of the typical petty Twitter argument.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#11364: Aug 4th 2024 at 1:53:06 AM

Sorry to say, but while he right about those that did a more negative take on the ending being wrong, he's also wrong about the ending itself as he ignoring how hollow ending is to the themes of MHA were about, which is the issues that we have with the ending.

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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11365: Aug 4th 2024 at 1:57:10 AM

Others proved otherwise that the ending is satisfactory thematically speaking even if the character was lacking, so it's rather pointless to pretend there's an objective factor to determine for the ending as a whole.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Knows-Many-Things
#11366: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:12:37 AM

@M84

Oh absolutely, OFA had to go. They established during the Dark Hero arc that Deku would be the last user anyway since it's whole purpose is to resist AFO. Plus, the fact that it would quite simply kill the next guy who got it anyway was Hori setting up that it'll be destroyed.

One-For-All ceasing to exist is the last thing anyone should be angry about really.

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Trainbarrel The Story Supporter from The Star Ocean Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
The Story Supporter
#11367: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:27:45 AM

Also, the complainers also seem to forget that it takes time to change a society from the ground up.

Decades, centuries even.

It's not going to finish switching its gears completely in the span of eight years.

So complaining that "society is still the same" despite evidence that it have just begun to change its direction for the much better thanks to the continuous efforts of everyone included is just plain wrong.

"If there's problems, there's simple solutions."
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11368: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:29:56 AM

[up][awesome]

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
NHunter from a certain asteroid with two towers Since: Jan, 2016
#11369: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:32:56 AM

[up][up][up] And I don't think many do.

To me, it looks like the main issue is Izuku ending up with a desk job while everyone else is Heroing around. Teaching is a noble and important job, but it just doesn't feel like Izuku would've settled down like that so early. Yes, he might not be able to fight (on the level with others) without OFA, but he can still do coordination and planning and stuff for large-scale Hero action, or other Hero things that don't actually require super-powers. And as someone who wanted to actively help people for so long, that would've probably been a lot more in-character for him.

Edited by NHunter on Aug 4th 2024 at 5:33:16 AM

Trainbarrel The Story Supporter from The Star Ocean Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
The Story Supporter
#11370: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:36:15 AM

[up] He helps so many students on a daily basis. That is in-character for him.

"If there's problems, there's simple solutions."
FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#11371: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:49:29 AM

[up][up][up][up] "The society will get better (in centuries' time)" is a pretty shitty conclusion, if you ask me.

We see change happen immediately after the big fight concludes, that being Grandma reaching out to New Guy and averting another Shigaraki scenario. It's a small thing, but because it's done by 1) a civilian and 2) someone who had track record of acting otherwise, we can see it as the big symbolic sign: that the Hero Society stops relying on heroes on everything. A person who has no business extending a helping hand does so.

Fast-forward eight years, and not only the entire chapter is all about the heroes doing everything all over again, we have no real indication that non-heroes are doing anything to make things better. Sure, things won't get better overnight. Nobody expects them to - but if you did show a symbolic gesture of things getting better, then why show a future where everything appears the same as it was before, complete with a random spiky-haired asshole going "lmao, you'll never be a hero"?

The Iron Deku thing is honestly just a chaser to it all.

LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#11372: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:58:05 AM

Each on their own, then.

Everyone should always know progress is gradual, always will be, and yeah, it can suck, but baby steps are called a thing for a reason.

Edited by LoneCourier0 on Aug 4th 2024 at 11:58:38 AM

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#11373: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:59:33 AM

But the society IS better. We've seen in last chapter, and we see it in the epilogue. Arguing that there's no change is straight up bad faith.

Like it's explicitly mentioned that villains in the classic sense are not common anymore, and heroes are mostly rescue crews, which we see at the end when Hawks calls 1A.

That there's some asshole that thinks Dai's quirk doesn't suit a hero doesn't undo the narrative.

Assholes will always exist in society.

Edited by MrSeyker on Aug 4th 2024 at 3:04:07 AM

Trainbarrel The Story Supporter from The Star Ocean Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
The Story Supporter
#11374: Aug 4th 2024 at 3:01:57 AM

Society DID indeed change and is still changing in multiple ways, that is undeniable.

And Iron Deku is basically Izuku's karmic-reward for everything he has done so far for the entire story. There is nothing wrong with that.

Edited by Trainbarrel on Aug 4th 2024 at 12:02:14 PM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#11375: Aug 4th 2024 at 3:01:59 AM

Regardless, we shouldn't be calling posts here "bad faith". Bad faith means dishonesty or fraud. I don't think anyone here is outright lying about how they feel about the ending.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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