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ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#26: Sep 1st 2020 at 12:24:16 PM

I've just filed a wiki request to Miraheze.

ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#27: Sep 1st 2020 at 1:20:40 PM

Request has been approved, so the migration will soon begin.

ETA: For those wondering where the new dedicated wiki is, here's the URL. The wiki is currently a work in progress, so I'm inviting anyone in the home video community, including ~Mr Servo Retro and ~themisterfree, to join the effort to mature it.

Edited by ryanasaurus0077 on Sep 1st 2020 at 4:24:49 AM

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#28: Sep 1st 2020 at 2:26:29 PM

Great to see!

I'm about halfway through copying the descriptions over to the sandbox; the "Other Companies" need to be done, but the Big 5, Australian, Canadian, Greek, and Budget are done, and 4 pages from Anime that seem to be distributor-only rather than having a creator role (Anime Limited, GKIDS, Madman Entertainment, MVM Entertainment).

I've sent cutlist requests for these subpages:

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ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#29: Sep 1st 2020 at 2:49:58 PM

I've transplanted all the mentioned Madman Entertainment subpages, and they're currently pending reformatting to MediaWiki format on Home Video Wiki on Miraheze.

Edited by ryanasaurus0077 on Sep 1st 2020 at 5:51:15 AM

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#30: Sep 1st 2020 at 3:03:35 PM

[tup] I don't know of tools to make that process easier, but it might help to copy the text output (with all the nice spaces) since that doesn't have Wiki Words. You could then use text processor that lets you insert characters in a specific position to insert brackets at the start and end of each line, saving on doing all that manually. (Does Mediawiki do namespaces like here, or just all in the same namespace? If it's the latter, you'd want to strip the Anime/, Manga/, etc.) If you just need a list, you won't even need to insert brackets.

Edited by ImmiThrax on Sep 1st 2020 at 6:12:12 AM

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ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#32: Sep 1st 2020 at 3:34:41 PM

Anyway, the Directors Suite page has been transplanted completely, and the Eastern Eye image has been uploaded to Miraheze's Home Video Wiki. Course, it'll take me a while to get the hang of image uploading over there.

ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#33: Sep 1st 2020 at 3:58:29 PM

Eastern Eye transplantation complete.

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#34: Sep 5th 2020 at 11:58:20 AM

The Magnetic Video catalog page is in progress, but without extra hands I get the feeling I'm going to fall way behind schedule.

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#35: Sep 5th 2020 at 1:11:23 PM

Are you trying to make pages for each release at this point? Or just copying over the current information to one catalog page, to be divvied up later?

Thank you for keeping us posted!

Edited by ImmiThrax on Sep 5th 2020 at 4:11:48 AM

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ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#36: Sep 5th 2020 at 1:16:48 PM

Just copying the catalog info as best as I can to a single table format, since I feel that's the easiest at the moment. Still rather tedious, though.

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#37: Sep 5th 2020 at 3:55:52 PM

I suggest handling the formatting later, and for now make yourself a backup of the page source as a text document. Then you won't have to rush to format it, and we can keep moving forward.

When you do make the tables (or whatever you end up doing), consider removing the "Note:" part at the start of every line, or change the word Note to be what type of note it is. It'll look better that way.

I've finished copying over descriptions to Home Video Distribution, and put in the cutlist requests for the subpages Trivia.Random House Home Video, Trivia.Shout Factory, YMMV.Shout Factory, Trivia.Scream Factory, YMMV.Scream Factory.

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#39: Sep 13th 2020 at 2:21:23 AM

I've begun drafting the Useful Notes, but I need feedback to confirm what we're going to call it. Please give your thumbs up or down to these:

  1. UsefulNotes/HomeVideo
  2. UsefulNotes/HomeVideoDistributors
  3. UsefulNotes/HomeVideoDistribution

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#41: Sep 13th 2020 at 1:29:21 PM

#3.

Edited by Tabs on Sep 13th 2020 at 1:29:35 AM

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#43: Sep 13th 2020 at 2:35:15 PM

Ryan, did you get the material on those cutlisted pages?

ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#44: Sep 13th 2020 at 3:34:10 PM

I've got 'em all saved in Notepad++, and ready for easy referencing.

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#45: Sep 13th 2020 at 3:44:56 PM

Glad to hear that! I saw the table format you have going, and it looks nice and easy to read.


Aside from what name to use, some other things we'll need to address:

  • Are we using some kind of threshold for the inbounds to determine what the pages become?
  • Are we changing wicks to the associated parent company (if it has one)? For instance, change wicks to Walt Disney Home Video into potholes for Disney?
  • Are we turning any of the pages into redirects to the parent company/to the new useful note?
  • When it comes to redirects, for the sake of the server, do we request a cut and then recreate as a redirect, or just replace the existing text with a redirect? (I don't know how the server storage stuff works)

If someone with more TRS experience than me (that is, more than 0) is willing to take charge on this step, I'd greatly appreciate it!

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#46: Sep 14th 2020 at 11:08:28 PM

More name input appreciated!

Draft for the useful note is now in the Home Video Distribution sandbox. Please feel free to correct any errors, and when the name is settled, it'll go live.

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#47: Sep 15th 2020 at 1:03:54 AM

Sandbox looks good.

Probably should change wicks to the parent company if applicable.

When it comes to replacing as redirects, I don't think there's any cutting between. Just changing the page contents.

No idea how to source inbounds.

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#48: Sep 15th 2020 at 5:42:33 AM

I'm a spreadsheet-maker for organizing things. I looked up the wick counts and inbound links, and the parent companies that we have pages for— but again, really would like someone else/group effort to handle that part of things, since I'm covering the useful note and the organizing.

    The list 
  1. Home Video Distributors — 3 wicks — 484 inbounds
  2. Allied Artists Video — 3 wicks — 177 inbounds — parent: Allied Artists
  3. Anime Limited — 17 wicks — 205 inbounds — parent: none
  4. Avid Home Entertainment — 2 wicks — 17 inbounds — parent: eventually Lionsgate
  5. The CBS/Fox Company — 9 wicks — 352 inbounds — parent: 20th Century Studios plus CBS, now Disney
  6. Cineplex Odeon Video — 1 wicks — 26 inbounds — parent: none
  7. Fotomat Video — 7 wicks — 193 inbounds — parent: none
  8. Fred Levine Productions — 3 wicks — 978 inbounds — parent: none
  9. International Video Entertainment — 18 wicks — 198 inbounds — parent: eventually Lionsgate
  10. Kino Lorber Studio Classics — 2 wicks — 324 inbounds — parent: none
  11. Lyrick Studios — 5 wicks — 387 inbounds — parent: eventually HiT Entertainment
  12. Madman Entertainment — 63 wicks — 494 inbounds — parent: none
  13. Magic Window — 3 wicks — 116 inbounds — parent: eventually Sony Pictures (sublabel of RCA/Columbia)
  14. Magnetic Video — 20 wicks — 2652 inbounds — parent: Indie, then 20th Century Studios, then The CBS/Fox Company, now Disney
  15. MCA Video Distributing Corporation — 11 wicks — 658 inbounds — parent: Universal
  16. Media Home Entertainment — 7 wicks — 432 inbounds — parent: eventually Lionsgate via Starz
  17. MGM/CBS Home Video — 13 wicks — 1649 inbounds — parent: Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, plus CBS and later United Artists
  18. Mill Creek Entertainment — 38 wicks — 499 inbounds — parent: none
  19. Modern Times — 8 wicks — 60 inbounds — parent: none
  20. MPI Home Video — 1 wicks — 57 inbounds — parent: none
  21. MVM Entertainment — 6 wicks — 247 inbounds — parent: none
  22. Paramount Home Video — 2 wicks — 99 inbounds — parent: Paramount
  23. PBS Home Video — 2 wicks — 131 inbounds — parent: PBS
  24. Random House Home Video — 6 wicks — 912 inbounds — parent: none
  25. Roadshow Home Video — 2 wicks — 130 inbounds — parent: none
  26. Sony Pictures Home Entertainment — 18 wicks — 80 inbounds — parent: Sony Pictures
  27. Thorn EMI Video — 15 wicks — 238 inbounds — parent: EMI, later others in UK and US
  28. Twilight Time — 1 wicks — 94 inbounds — parent: none
  29. VCI Home Video — 1 wicks — 9 inbounds — parent: none
  30. Vestron Video — 8 wicks — 17 inbounds — parent: eventually Lionsgate
  31. Vista Home Video — 1 wicks — 25 inbounds — parent: unclear but bullet under Lionsgate
  32. Walt Disney Home Video — 73 wicks — 3862 inbounds — parent: Disney
  33. Warner Home Video — 32 wicks — 910 inbounds — parent: Warner Bros.
  34. Wizard Video — 4 wicks — 92 inbounds — parent: none
  35. Worldvision Home Video — 1 wicks — 19 inbounds — parent: none

[nja] I listed these before, but upon researching further, I found Shout! Factory (178 wicks, 1224 inbounds) isn't just a distributor— they produce original works. The current page, however, is focused on everything they've ever distributed instead of what they actually create. So I'm proposing instead that this page get an overhaul. As far as I can tell, their sublabel Scream Factory (7 wicks, 129 inbounds) is just a distributor and the page lists what they distribute; the description could be relocated to a section on Shout! Factory and either turn it into a redirect or just change the wicks. Yes/no/maybe?

Edited by ImmiThrax on Sep 15th 2020 at 12:34:58 PM

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#49: Sep 15th 2020 at 10:18:06 AM

I think when fixing wicks

  • those with parent companies: unlink, unlink and remove any mention, or point to parent company, at discretion of whoever is cleaning up
  • those without parent companies: unlink or unlink and remove any mention, at discretion of whoever is cleaning up
  • the pages themselves: make redirects to the useful notes page if they have some threshold of inbounds. Maybe those with under 20 can be cut listed.

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#50: Sep 17th 2020 at 11:16:58 AM

UsefulNotes.Home Video Distributors created.

I'm unclear if the main Home Video Distributors is supposed to get turned into a redirect to that, or get cut and let the wiki do the "Inexact title/We do have:" thing for inbounds?

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