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GastonRabbit His own thang from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Nov 5th 2020 at 12:20:30 AM

Who said anything about YouTube War Expert not being tropeworthy? If that was referring to my post, I also said the thread listed Not Thriving rather than Not Tropeworthy.

Regardless, I assume that what you said means that its definition-only status wasn't a mistake, and that sounds like a good reason to keep it definition-only.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 5th 2020 at 2:20:51 PM

Any questions?
LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas
Maintenance?
Nov 16th 2020 at 1:56:42 PM

Bumping. All Men Are Rapists has been cut by TRS. Can someone compile the full list of pages that still need TRS, and why?

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jandn2014 Hangs around Image Pickiní a lot from somewhere in Connecticut Relationship Status: Hiding
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Nov 17th 2020 at 8:08:38 PM

I haven't heard from ~Septimus Heap in this thread since my last big post. PM sent.


Who said anything about YouTube War Expert not being tropeworthy?
Me tongue
It's the Online Persona that bugs me the most, but no reason to remove from D-O until after that mess (One of these web tropes) is sorted out.
Can someone compile the full list of pages that still need TRS, and why?
I think everything has been updated... I planned on double-checking all of the pages still on the index at the end of this thread anyway, to request the banner being added to the locked pages. Once this thread is done, there should be only two types of pages on Definition-Only Pages; ones with the banner and ones on the TRS sandbox. The banner indicates that we've confirmed its presence on the index.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Nov 18th 2020 at 1:03:33 AM

So, I am guessing the following goes:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit His own thang from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Nov 19th 2020 at 10:57:08 AM

I'm now in favor of reversing Melody's move, but keeping it definition-only. I retracted what I previously said because I'm pretty sure it was posted shortly before going to bed (so I didn't put much thought into it).

Any questions?
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Nov 29th 2020 at 9:55:14 PM

Reviewing the entire thread, the following tropes are unresolved. Are they okay to stay?

Reposting to the Locked Pages thread — These pages need the banner added to them:

[=!Please do not add examples to work pages, this merely [[Administrivia/DefinitionOnlyPages defines the term]]. %%https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1596363404091310800=]
Sept suggested a change to the banner. Using the center command instead of the header command.

Edited by crazysamaritan on Nov 30th 2020 at 3:30:49 PM

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Nov 30th 2020 at 12:33:27 AM

The latter (Logical Fallacies) can probably stay until and unless someone ponies up the stamina to do a large-scale repair effort on it. The latter (Current Events Blog) is another candidate for the web tropes cleanup.

I've moved Melody back, for the record.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas
Maintenance?
Dec 2nd 2020 at 12:03:59 AM

[up] Aside from converting Logical Fallacies to a Useful Notes page, it has been suggested making all Logical Fallacies tropes In-Universe Examples Only.rationale  All possibilities, including the case where we make a UN and an IUEO, could also allow merger into one page. Definitely leave that for TRS, however.

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Berrenta Here comes the sun~ from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Dec 12th 2020 at 6:46:27 AM

Sept suggested a change to the banner. Using the center command instead of the header command.

As far as I can tell, consensus on how to format the banner is the last thing that we need before closing this thread.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas
Maintenance?
Dec 12th 2020 at 6:49:46 PM

Are we sure that no other action is required post-cleanup, e.g. to prevent further misuse?

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crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Dec 12th 2020 at 7:23:24 PM

This was the cause of misuse. This thread is clarifying that rule, so more misuse is unlikely.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas
Maintenance?
Dec 12th 2020 at 10:33:50 PM

[up] Could you explain that better?

As for the change, here's what the two versions would look like, as seen on Delicate Is Beautiful with a punctuation error corrected. Header

Please do not add examples to work pages; this merely defines the term.

Center
Please do not add examples to work pages; this merely defines the term.
I like the Header version better.

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crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Dec 14th 2020 at 10:54:36 AM

Could you explain that better?
Misuse is defined as "not correct use", but Example Sectionectomy has been correctly used, but for several types of use. This thread has been clarifying and changing policy for specific articles. There is no "misuse" to apply in this situation.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas
Maintenance?
GastonRabbit His own thang from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Dec 30th 2020 at 2:28:04 AM

I don't know if I already brought this up in this thread (I did bring it up in the Nightmare Fuel cleanup thread), but shouldn't Accidental Nightmare Fuel be on Definition-Only Pages instead of No On-Page Examples? The page says it's a Fan Speak term whose examples should be listed under Nightmare Fuel instead of Accidental Nightmare Fuel.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 30th 2020 at 4:31:16 AM

Any questions?
rjd1922 Image Pickin' regular from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Image Pickin' regular
Jan 5th 2021 at 9:07:27 AM

[up]I think it's OK to list Accidental Nightmare Fuel on YMMV pages, myself.

Should Don't Shoot the Message be on No On-Page Examples? It has no examples on the trope page, but I've seen it on work YMMV pages.

Keet cleanup
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Jan 14th 2021 at 7:53:43 AM

shouldn't Accidental Nightmare Fuel be on Definition-Only Pages instead of No On-Page Examples?
Yeah, I don't remember exactly where the thread that merged them is, but I'm fine with moving it over. I was planning on tackling that index in the same way we reviewed this index next.

Should Don't Shoot the Message be on No On-Page Examples?
That should be handled in a thread for DSTM.
Still not enough consensus on the banners.

Edited by crazysamaritan on Jan 14th 2021 at 10:54:28 AM

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Piterpicher Dislikes soulless stuff from Poland, for real Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
Dislikes soulless stuff
Jan 14th 2021 at 1:51:57 PM

I guess that header is okay, but honestly I saw no issue with using the comma, though that may be because I always believed that semicolons are only for show-offs (outside of programming).

Edited by Piterpicher on Jan 14th 2021 at 10:55:53 AM

I'm not inactive. Just drafting work pages and examples mostly these days.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Jan 15th 2021 at 1:37:02 AM

Re banners: I think the header version is OK.

Re Accidental Nightmare Fuel: I recall the 2012 discussions and yes it's supposed to be exampleless.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit His own thang from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Jan 15th 2021 at 2:01:15 AM

[up]Should Accidental Nightmare Fuel be moved, then?

Edit: Also, should Melody be put back on the list since it was moved back to Main/?

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 15th 2021 at 4:03:43 AM

Any questions?
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Feb 14th 2021 at 2:50:56 AM

OK, I'll take action on this one. Accidental Nightmare Fuel is listed and Melody isn't pending its own discussion if anyone is actually interested. Since most people here appear to support the header over the center version, I've gone and put it on the pages that don't bear a Flame Bait notice nor have another notice already.

This has now served its purpose, so I'll lock it. Since some people agreed that Online Personas and similar online things tropes need TRS, I'll refer to this TRS which deals with some of them.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Feb 14th 2021 at 11:54:02 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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