TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Does Not Illustrate: Cheese Strategy

Go To

Deadlock Clock: Aug 12th 2020 at 11:59:00 PM
ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
#1: Jul 20th 2020 at 5:03:44 PM

This page was just launched, and the image does a poor job illustrating the concept. It just shows 2 cheese icons above a health bar, and it isn't clear how it's an example if you're not familiar with the game the image came from.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#2: Jul 22nd 2020 at 7:55:51 PM

Yeah, that's just illustrating the title, and not very well. 1 to pull, possibly BUPKIS.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#3: Jul 22nd 2020 at 8:09:09 PM

This doesn't need BUPKIS — honestly just having a "What you're supposed to do" picture combined with a picture showing the Cheese Strategy would be good.

Also, pull.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Jul 22nd 2020 at 10:34:58 AM

Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢
jandn2014 SMILE! from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
TheUnsquished Filthy Casual from A youngun between two oldies Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy Casual
#5: Jul 22nd 2020 at 10:38:32 PM

Pull.

(Annoyed grunt)
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#8: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:45:15 AM

Pull, and this also needs immediate cleanup (because it has numerous examples that the fandom calls cheese but doesn't meet the trope definition).

...was this launched too hastily?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#9: Jul 23rd 2020 at 5:19:31 AM

[up] Possibly.

The pic's pulled and the page is tagged.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cheese_1.jpg
Sometimes, it is easy being cheesy.

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#10: Jul 23rd 2020 at 5:34:54 AM

Got a replacement idea:

Something from here, maybe?

petersohn from Earth, Solar System (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Hiding
#11: Jul 23rd 2020 at 6:01:08 AM

[up]Even though it has a lot of text, panels 8 and the last one might work.

Fjón þvæ ég af mér fjanda minna rán og reiði ríkra manna.
ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
#12: Jul 23rd 2020 at 11:34:38 AM

[up][up] A combination of panels 8 and 10 could work

thok That's Dr. Title, thank you! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
That's Dr. Title, thank you!
#13: Jul 23rd 2020 at 1:38:17 PM

Eh, the Oot S examples feels more like Min-Maxing than Cheese Strategy. If the half-ogre was only fighting Roy with this combination of tricks it would be a Cheese Strategy, but instead his entire build is optimized for this one specific technique that he appears to use in most combats.

Earnest (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14: Jul 23rd 2020 at 2:22:23 PM

Would the all White Mage strategy for the end boss of the first Final Fantasy game, as shown in 8-Bit Theater count? Is it too text heavy?

For reference, it's from two panels in the strips 1222 and 1223.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/8_bit_theater_cheese_strategy_0.png

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#15: Jul 23rd 2020 at 5:19:04 PM

...was this launched too hastily?

It's in Tropes Needing TRS, so yes. I'm surprised it wasn't unlaunched.

Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#16: Jul 24th 2020 at 9:53:52 AM

Here's the issue: while both the OOTS suggestion or 8-Bit Theatre would be called cheese by their respective fandoms, neither meets the trope definition (which explicitly requires a strategy that requires little player skill or knowledge).

Actually, we should probably just remove the line about requiring little skill; then all the current examples would fit and the image would be way easier. And it would no longer be subjective.

Vilui Since: May, 2009
#17: Jul 24th 2020 at 10:34:10 AM

If you remove that line, then what is even left of the trope? "Things that are called cheese" is way too broad and unfocused.

Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#18: Jul 25th 2020 at 2:09:28 AM

[up] "Strategies widely disliked by the fandom" strikes me as a decent page topic. It does need YMMV and Audience Reaction tags, but it's a nice complement to pages like Scrub.

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#19: Jul 25th 2020 at 2:27:24 AM

I think the problem is we try to steer clear of new tropes that could attract complaining.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#20: Jul 31st 2020 at 9:21:49 PM

Well, should this thread be shelved until we get the trope TRS'd?

Edited by Berrenta on Jul 31st 2020 at 11:23:12 AM

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#22: Aug 1st 2020 at 4:47:57 AM

It was just launched...can't we just unlaunch it? Why does it need TRS?

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#24: Aug 9th 2020 at 3:12:55 PM

Bump. Was the trope unlaunched?

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#25: Aug 9th 2020 at 3:15:44 PM

Nope...

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall

Total posts: 32
Top