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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#2051: Mar 27th 2025 at 4:25:07 AM

That seems to be a weakness unique to Conquest. Other Viltrumites seen so far are ruthless and to the point when subjugating worlds. Conquest is the only one who is openly sadistic.

Conquest for all his strength ultimately lost because he kept dragging the fight out. He wanted his fun instead of just going for the kill asap. Even when Mark surrendered he wouldn’t stop.

Edited by M84 on Mar 27th 2025 at 7:26:28 PM

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#2052: Mar 27th 2025 at 4:35:59 AM

Yeah, it's ironic that they sent Conquest and let him have his head (i.e. work with no restrictions) presumably to make sure the job was absolutely 100% done and that's what allowed Mark to survive and Earth to remain unconquered.

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#2053: Mar 27th 2025 at 5:39:42 AM

I kinda hate that people underplay mark's role in defeating Conquest. Yes, Eve did a lot of damage but she immediately fainted after going super mode. If Mark wasn't there, she dies.

Pretty sure Conquest was more inconvinienced by losing the arm that by Eve's whole blast

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#2054: Mar 27th 2025 at 5:51:04 AM

The blast was important since it distracted Conquest long enough for Mark to regain the upper hand and headbutt Conquest repeatedly.

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#2055: Mar 27th 2025 at 5:59:25 AM

Whew, finally caught up! Took awhile to get around to it, but it was all worth it!

Wasn't expecting that little bit of emotional depth from Conquest. I loved it.

Holy crap, Season 4's gonna be doing an original storyline? HYPE

Edited by lbssb on Mar 27th 2025 at 9:02:17 AM

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#2056: Mar 27th 2025 at 6:29:47 AM

If Mark wasn't there Oliver and Eve die. If Oliver and Eve weren't there Mark die.

I think the blast must have helped a lot. Prior to the blast, Mark wasn't able to hurt Conquest without damaging himself (admittedly the biggest example is Mark's first vs the metal arm); afterwards his headbutts are damaging Conquest's skull.

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#2057: Mar 27th 2025 at 7:13:14 AM

Mark's fight with Conquest does make me wonder if Mark could take on Nolan in a fair fight now. He's come on a real long way in a short amount of time.

On a different topic I wonder if Nolan misses being an author. Presumably he chose that job and did it at least in part out of joy. And I imagine other Viltrimites wouldn't take much interest in the topic of his writings.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#2058: Mar 27th 2025 at 7:15:42 AM

He could definitely put up a better fight even if Nolan is still stronger.

Keep in mind the Conquest fight wasn’t just determined by raw strength. If Conquest had taken the fight as seriously as other Viltrumites take fights he would have won.

Edited by M84 on Mar 27th 2025 at 10:17:12 PM

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#2059: Mar 27th 2025 at 7:18:46 AM

[up][up][up] If I recall correctly, the blast removed at least a layer of skin, perhaps a bit more. I can see that weakening someone.

Regarding Mark's fist vs. Conquest's metal arm, I do wonder what said arm is made of that it can handle not only the strain of being used to hit things with Viltrumite strength, but further, to handle being punched by a half-Viltrumite (earlier in the fight than the point at which it was broken).

Edited by ArsThaumaturgis on Mar 27th 2025 at 4:18:58 PM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#2060: Mar 27th 2025 at 7:30:27 AM

Probably made out of whatever it is Viltrumites use to make their melee weapons.

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#2061: Mar 27th 2025 at 7:47:50 AM

Some weapons are strong enough to harm viltrumites and probably some metals are strong enough to get the job done.

Like War Woman's maze was doing numbers on Omniman. It would have killed him if she got a few more hits in

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#2062: Mar 27th 2025 at 7:56:55 AM

Even Rex's explosions were enough to stun Mark. Not do damage really, but stun. And a bomb that set a bridge on fire actually killed that Mark.

Though we did see our Mark survive a nuclear missile blowing up in his face and he's still weaker than Nolan and Conquest.

Edited by FOFD on Mar 27th 2025 at 10:57:40 AM

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#2063: Mar 27th 2025 at 7:57:09 AM

Plus it's an alien arm so it can be as hard as they want, they just have to say it's from space.

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#2064: Mar 27th 2025 at 8:57:30 AM

[up][up] For the nuclear missile do you mean the last fight against the Maulers against the missile base?

Because they replaced the warhead with something more focused to doing EMP than the regular nuke. (and presumably didn't go off properly because mark punched it? It's not been that long and I'm already forgetting this stuff).

Edited by dcutter2 on Mar 27th 2025 at 4:07:34 PM

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#2065: Mar 27th 2025 at 9:39:55 AM

Kirkman confirmed business baby is actually alive lmao

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#2066: Mar 27th 2025 at 10:56:13 AM

[up]Damn. I guess business still good.[lol]

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#2067: Mar 27th 2025 at 11:02:13 AM

For the nuclear missile do you mean the last fight against the Maulers against the missile base?

Because they replaced the warhead with something more focused to doing EMP than the regular nuke

Yeah that one

Actually I forgot they even did that. I rewatched the clip of Oliver killing the Maulers and saw Mark unconsciously floating around in space. I'd assumed it was just a regular missile.

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Edited by FOFD on Mar 27th 2025 at 2:03:02 PM

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#2069: Mar 27th 2025 at 11:50:12 AM

Eve should definitely look into replicating the material from Conquest's artificial hand.

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#2070: Mar 27th 2025 at 1:48:56 PM

[up] That's... actually a really good idea.

Plus it's an alien arm so it can be as hard as they want, they just have to say it's from space.

I mean, sure—I'm just wondering specifically.

It's presumably not just steel—I don't see even really good steel holding up under those conditions.

So do they have something akin to adamantium/vibranium/etc.? Or is it some high-tech composite/nanomaterial? Did they get hold of some magic? Something else...?

(And to be clear, I'm not expecting that an answer is available. I'm just curious.)

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#2071: Mar 27th 2025 at 1:54:57 PM

There's also that weapon Battle Beast used to demolish mark

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#2072: Mar 27th 2025 at 4:36:47 PM

Honestly, recreating War Woman's weapon wouldn't be a bad idea either considering it could hurt Omni-Man and didn't even dent when it hit him.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#2073: Mar 27th 2025 at 7:38:53 PM

Basically while there are weapons made of stuff that could potentially kill a Viltrumite, you'd need the strength of a Viltrumite to actually kill one with them.

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#2074: Mar 28th 2025 at 2:37:36 AM

Apparently there were (not really) a bunch of rejected Invincible variants.

NSFW.

Racistvincible, Antivaxxervincible, Flatearthvincible...

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#2075: Mar 28th 2025 at 2:52:42 AM

Lol the channel icon made it look like they also came up with Homestuckincible.


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