I believe they are asking what the word "this" refers to in the sentence "I feel that the gender-flipped version is closer to this than to Stay in the Kitchen, so it makes more sense for examples to go here." I am also confused on this point.
I came across this example. I find it dubious because it doesn't sound like the disapproval stems from gender roles.
- WebVideo.Walking In Circles: Apparently, Krag wanted to be a dentist in the past, which his father did not approve of.
Edited by IukaSylvie on Jul 18th 2020 at 4:57:48 AM
I checked wicks to "Billy Elliot" Plot and made a list. Does this look good enough?
I wonder if we can rely on real life perceptions of certain occupations and assume similar perceptions within the work? Like the figure skating/ice hockey example — one of those is undeniably seen as feminine and the other masculine IRL. And the example does not mention this, but as context for the Pokemon Adventures example, contests are something like a Pokemon fashion show, and between that and battling... Men Are Strong, Women Are Pretty.
Some of the misuse, where gender roles are not part of the story, fit Fantasy-Forbidding Father.
Okay. Sounds like a TRS issue then. Not something we can solve here.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallIs this okay as an original post?
The "Billy Elliot" Plot is when a boy has a feminine hobby but someone else wants him to be manly. However, a lot of examples don't explain whether the disapproval stems from gender roles or what gender roles are.
The second problem is that the name doesn't indicate its meaning; the reference to the film Billy Elliot is obscure and breaks the core policy about tropes named after works or characters.
I've compiled a wick check of 52 random examples and determined that only 6 examples were sufficient, with 38 low-context examples, 10 Zero Context Examples, and 2 misuses.
Edited by IukaSylvie on Oct 16th 2020 at 5:15:55 PM
(EDIT for conciseness)
A few examples in the other/uncertain section are there because you ask if the performance arts are considered feminine. I would say yes; performers from stage to screen are invariably Always Camp, All Gays Love Theater, Dancing is Unmanly
, etc.
Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 16th 2020 at 3:34:43 PM
What's the difference between a "Billy Elliot" Plot and Real Men Wear Pink?
Edited by Nen_desharu on Oct 16th 2020 at 12:00:50 PM
Kirby is awesome.One is a Plot Trope, the other is a Characterization Trope. I feel like this sort of question comes up a lot.
